Draft Round 3: Batdude123 and TheKahn's Holiday Herald Tournament

Started by King Kandy15 pages

Originally posted by leonidas
does he possess enough innate power to do this:

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/6941/newthunderbolts018page199eo.jpg

if yes, his level of power is being neutered to allow him entry into the tournament. THAT is my issue.


That was a level of power he was going to be capable of in the future. Not what he could do right that second. As we later saw confirmed when Zemo easily took out this "universe buster".

Originally posted by id369
If he did, he would have been beaten by Barron Zemo.

that doesn't answer the question . . . .

kk already admitted he can do whatever insane genis could do. by extension, he possesses the innate power to kill eternity. when you say you won't use that example, i believe you. when you say you'll use him within the rules, i believe you.

my issue isn't with how you use him--it's that his base level appears to be well beyond the tier if used to it's potential.

It’s a purple prose, to dress up how he uses Cosmic Awareness.

Show me a feat of him effectively using telepathy in such a manner. If I felt, that feat held so much weight. I would not on the hunt to draft a powerful telepath, you know to protect him in coming brain farts. 😬

i'll take your word for it.

Originally posted by leonidas
again, to be clear--if his level of power has to be neutered, then it raises a large issue. i could say i'll use thanos, but only access levels of power`that are acceptable. i just don't see the difference between the examples. 😬

I believe KK and Id are arguing that Genis-Vell doesn't have to be neutered to fit under the caps. Aside from the whole recreating-the-universe feat where he had an unknown amount of aid from abstract entities, there hasn't really been any evidence to make us think he can do something other legal characters can't.

At this point, I think everyone knows I'm being particularly strict on the rules. If I honestly saw any evidence that showed Genis would give any team an unfair advantage, I'd ban him in a heartbeat. I just haven't seen any yet. 😬

Originally posted by TheKahn
I believe KK and Id are arguing that Genis-Vell doesn't have to be neutered to fit under the caps. Aside from the whole recreating-the-universe feat where he had an unknown amount of aid from abstract entities, there hasn't really been any evidence to make us think he can do something other legal characters can't.

At this point, I think everyone knows I'm being particularly strict on the rules. If I honestly saw any evidence that showed Genis would give any team an unfair advantage, I'd ban him in a heartbeat. I just haven't seen any yet. 😬

all righty then. i'll reserve the right to 'i told you so', for later. 😄

Originally posted by leonidas
all righty then. i'll reserve the right to 'i told you so', for later. 😄

I swear the next tourney will consist solely of non-powered septuagenarians. Aunt May, Jarvis, and Alfred FTW. 😛

Team psycho charlotte - Kyle Rayner (GL), Zatanna, Tangent Superman

Team darthgoober & Blair Wind - Silver Surfer, Dr. Doom, Eradicator

Team: id369 and King Kandy - Genis-Vell, Quasar, Onslaught

Team Philosophia and PR - Hal Jordan (GL), Superman, Martian Manhunter

Team Leonidas & Galen007 - Blue Superman, Loki, Atrocitus

Team Kris Blaze & KM - Captain Comet, Beta Ray Bill, Talisman II/Shaman

Team Omega Vision & JL King - Wally West (Flash), All Star Superman, Swamp Thing

Still need picks from:
Team JaketheBank - Thor, Cyborg Superman

Originally posted by leonidas
that doesn't answer the question . . . .

kk already admitted he can do whatever insane genis could do. by extension, he possesses the innate power to kill eternity. when you say you won't use that example, i believe you. when you say you'll use him within the rules, i believe you.

my issue isn't with how you use him--it's that his base level appears to be well beyond the tier if used to it's potential.


We don't know how he killed Eternity; one thing we DO know, is that he couldn't have done it on his own; neither genis nor Entropy could do it by themselves. Now, I always attributed Entropy with the bulk of the feat because it was mentioned earlier that he was the one who caused Genis's cosmic awareness to spike in the first place.

Besides, Eternity wanted to die in that encounter. Hardly a fair fight.

Originally posted by id369
Hold on before I continue. One thing worries me.

We drafted Photon, are we going to be restricted to purely Photon’s feats as seen in New Thunderboltz. Or can we use his entire history of feats.

I am asking, because members seem to dismiss the idea that he can, with he changed form. Where the only change that took place was absorbing the Nega Bands.

I am asking for an official judge ruling on this.

After discussing the issue, Batdude and I have decided that since you drafted the 'Photon' version of Genis-Vell, it will be up to you to convince the judges of the matches that Photon can replicate the feats of other Genis-Vell incarnations.

Originally posted by TheKahn
After discussing the issue, Batdude and I have decided that since you drafted the 'Photon' version of Genis-Vell, it will be up to you to convince the judges of the matches that Photon can replicate the feats of other Genis-Vell incarnations.

I'm fine with that. I strongly believe we can prove that one.

We should have the final pick in sometime tonight.

Originally posted by TheKahn
We should have the final pick in sometime tonight.

Yeah, sorry about the wait and all. Christmas stuff 😛

Anyway, I'll pick Thall Sinestro for my final pick http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Sinestro_(New_Earth)

I'm naming this tournament "The War of Light." No arguments, I control the tourney respect thread. But Atrocitus, Hal, Kyle, Sinestro. Epic.

Alright! We have our teams:

Team psycho charlotte - Kyle Rayner (GL), Zatanna, Tangent Superman

Team darthgoober & Blair Wind - Silver Surfer, Dr. Doom, Eradicator

Team: id369 and King Kandy - Genis-Vell, Quasar, Onslaught

Team Philosophia and PR - Hal Jordan (GL), Superman, Martian Manhunter

Team Leonidas & Galen007 - Blue Superman, Loki, Atrocitus

Team Kris Blaze & KM - Captain Comet, Beta Ray Bill, Talisman II/Shaman

Team Omega Vision & JL King - Wally West (Flash), All Star Superman, Swamp Thing

Team JaketheBank - Thor, Cyborg Superman, Sinestro

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yeah, sorry about the wait and all. Christmas stuff 😛

Anyway, I'll pick Thall Sinestro for my final pick http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Sinestro_(New_Earth)

Solid choice.

About time some one steps it up, and decides to use Sinestro.

Originally posted by Digi
I'm naming this tournament "The War of Light." No arguments, I control the tourney respect thread. But Atrocitus, Hal, Kyle, Sinestro. Epic.

Works for me 👆

I was wondering what was taking so long for someone to pick that yellow bastard. 😄

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yeah, sorry about the wait and all. Christmas stuff 😛

Anyway, I'll pick Thall Sinestro for my final pick http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Sinestro_(New_Earth)

So you're getting us an asswhoopin' for Christmas?

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
So you're getting us an asswhoopin' for Christmas?

Your words, not mine 😆

Yeah, I was really dead set on using a Lantern for this thing.

in order to act out your sig in the tourney right?

lol partly.