Originally posted by King Kandy
iirc, that was because the way he was drawing power from the ends of times was going to destabilize himself and the universe, not because of anything he was personally capable of at the moment, but because of future risks.I mean, you might as well say "Wonder Man is a multiverse buster" because he set of the flaw that was going to end the multiverse in Marvel: The End.
Actually Im pretty sure they said he was doing it on his own power, but if your not going to use the universe blinking/destroying version of Genis I see no problems.
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Originally posted by TheKahn
Ok, Batdude and I have made a few decisions. First, we are going to allow the Magneto/Xavier version of Onslaught. Nothing we are aware of clearly puts him above the caps and there was technically no rule against using an independent character that was an amalgam of two other characters.Also, as for [b]all of the controversial
characters in the tournament, we will be watching closely for any abuses of the rules or limits. 😐
Expect heavy penalties or disqualification if it is clear to the judges that a team is cheating in some way. So play by the rules.Finally, the judges will be using the following criteria for scoring the matches:
Originality: 0-5
Effectiveness: 0-5
Debating Skill: 0-10If one or more judge calls a match a tie, we'll go to point totals to decide a winner. [/B]
Interesting stuff, real interesting.
Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm all for letting feats be the judge most of the time, but that really Onslaught really doesn't seem to fit into that category IMO. I mean he may not have actually done anything that Surfer or GL couldn't, but at the same time unlike those characters we have literally NO idea of what it would take to put the guy down for the count.
Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm also worried a little in regards to Nate Grey. I mean the stuff he's done to date isn't big deal to me, but it seems like I've heard something about him running into Sentry sometime soon and Sentry's character is obviously more than a little "iffy" at this point. So if I've heard right about the intended crossover I think he should be treated like Sentry and only allowed past appearances.
Future appearances are only allowed if they are consistent with past ones. If Nate gets a massive power-up in DA, then his new feats won't be allowable.
Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm all for letting feats be the judge most of the time, but that really Onslaught really doesn't seem to fit into that category IMO. I mean he may not have actually done anything that Surfer or GL couldn't, but at the same time unlike those characters we have literally NO idea of what it would take to put the guy down for the count.I'm also worried a little in regards to Nate Grey. I mean the stuff he's done to date isn't big deal to me, but it seems like I've heard something about him running into Sentry sometime soon and Sentry's character is obviously more than a little "iffy" at this point. So if I've heard right about the intended crossover I think he should be treated like Sentry and only allowed past appearances.
You will be happy to know that, no one has X-Man for the moment. He got dropped for the guy that slayed a Sky Father being, by pulling universe ending attack from his magical pouch.
But, but, but, Onslaught pulled the gem out of Juggernaut!
Originally posted by id369
You will be happy to know that, no one has X-Man for the moment. He got dropped for the guy that slayed a Sky Father being, by pulling universe ending attack from his magical pouch.But, but, but, Onslaught pulled the gem out of Juggernaut!
Who did? Shaman? No he didn't kill Ranaq and Ranaq was weakened as he was using a human host as noted.
Team psycho charlotte - Kyle Rayner (GL), Zatanna, Tangent Superman
Team darthgoober & Blair Wind - Silver Surfer, Dr. Doom, Eradicator
Team: id369 and King Kandy - Genis-Vell, Quasar, Onslaught
Team Philosophia and PR - Hal Jordan (GL), Superman, Martian Manhunter
Team Leonidas & Galen007 - Blue Superman, Loki, Atrocitus
Team Kris Blaze & KM - Captain Comet, Beta Ray Bill, Talisman II/Shaman
Still need picks for these two teams:
Team Omega Vision & JL King - Wally West (Flash), All Star Superman
Team JaketheBank - Thor, Cyborg Superman
Originally posted by -K-M-
That happened with crazy Genis not there, he was told he could destroy the universe then. However, if your not using those feats I have no problem with him.
You are aware that we are using all his feats, from his humble beginning as Legacy, to Captain Marvel, down to his last appearance as Photon. There is nothing to keep us from using his feats, unless it’s a what if or an alternate version of himself.
Originally posted by id369
You are aware that we are using all his feats, from his humble beginning as Legacy, to Captain Marvel, down to his last appearance as Photon. There is nothing to keep us from using his feats, unless it’s a what if or an alternate version of himself.
haha no. Crazy Genis incident anyone? If you want to use just Photon which is fine. His powers and abilities changed after Atlas "killed" him sans destroying the universe as aluded to Baron.
Originally posted by -K-M-
haha no. Crazy Genis incident anyone? If you want to use just Photon which is fine. His powers and abilities changed after Atlas "killed" him.
If by change of powers you mean, absorbing and internalizing the Nega Bands? Yes. With the change being he no longer needs to use an external device to apply the same power.
Atlas killing Photon? No! he killed Captain Marvel post insanity! Not Photon.
coffee1
Originally posted by id369
facepalmIf by change of powers you mean, absorbing and internalizing the Nega Bands? Yes. which means he has the same set of powers.
Atlas killing Photon? No! that is Captain Marvel post insanity killed! Not Photon.
coffee1
What? He became Photon after that and as noted in his death he changed. So are you using just Photon or all of Genis feats?
Originally posted by psycho gundam
casually kicking the shit out of juggernaut TWICE is being downplayed now, but later it will be a big deal.watch
yep.
and genis is going to cause problems, i've almost no doubt about that. i'd wager it's about 50/50 that he'll be banned at some point--i hope not, but it feels that way already. if he is, then would id's team repick? i'd think not, which would leave them with just 2 characters which would lead to them bailing which would lead to a bad number of teams.
i don't foresee a happy ending here . . . 🙁
Originally posted by -K-M-
I have no problem with Genis if your not using universe busting feats as that goes beyong everyone elses powerlevels and beyond the cap. *shrugs*
but i AM against neutering someone's power level and feats just to allow them in. and that is different from what's happening to magic users whose specific ABILITIES have been banned.
i'm not necassarily against genis--i just think he will cause problems later on, and if he does it could be unfortunate for everyone. 😬
Originally posted by leonidas
yep.and genis is going to cause problems, i've almost no doubt about that. i'd wager it's about 50/50 that he'll be banned at some point--i hope not, but it feels that way already. if he is, then would id's team repick? i'd think not, which would leave them with just 2 characters which would lead to them bailing which would lead to a bad number of teams.
i don't foresee a happy ending here . . . 🙁
Maybe, but I hope not. We've been as clear as possible on the limits and what is and is not allowable. We are going to do everything possible to prevent anyone from exploiting the rules. Everyone, just please follow the damn rules. It will make things more enjoyable and pleasant for everyone involved.
Also, any team who quits midround will forfeit the fight and their opponents get an automatic win.