Originally posted by Genii96
Post annihilation Surfer beats supes into the ground. Ssupes beats marvel..hal goes both ways.
In which case he would get his shit pushed in. Trying to cqc Superman is a bad idea. For anybody.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Compare WHAT exactly? They don't exist in the same universes. They are both top dogs in their respective universes, but don't completely dominate the tier. If they did, they would be considered in a higher tier. Don't try to act like Diana hasn't gotten the best of Superman, and before you go on an insane rant, I didn't say she was more powerful than him.
LOL. Diana has never "gotten the best" of Superman. You poor WW fans have told yourselves that lie so many times that you've convinced yourselves it's true. Too bad you won't ever convince anyone who doesn't look thru biased WW-colored glasses or anti-Superman glasses. How many times do we have to go thru this?
1. That was a handi-capped Superman (as in he was hallucinating and didn't know who he was fighting so didn't know that object thrown at him was a tiara).
2. That was only a "technical win" for Diana as Clark looked much better throughout the rest of fight even though he was hallucinating.
I know it's hard for you bullheaded Diana fans to accept this but she's a clear tier below him. Hell, she even admitted to him in A League of One that "I know I cannot beat you". That was a WW book too, btw. But I'm sure all u WW fanboys/girls will make up some lame excuse like she didn't really mean it or something.
Quit drinking the kool-aid. WW has never beaten or even come close to beating Superman in a fair fight. She is not a "top-tier" character.
Re: ........vs Superman without his weaknesses
Originally posted by lawest9
Supes weaknesses that are exploiterable are removed for these bloodlusted fights.1. Captain Marvel without the magic weakness.
2. Silver Surfer without the red sun and krytonite weaknesses
3. Green Lantern (Hal) same as fight 2
This is current regular Superman, how does he fare in these battles?
2. Supes 8/10
3. Supes 9/10
Originally posted by Star428She is a top tier character, however you are right, the narrative has never truly been that she was equal to Superman. Even she has admitted that she can only slow him down.
LOL. Diana has never "gotten the best" of Superman. You poor WW fans have told yourselves that lie so many times that you've convinced yourselves it's true. Too bad you won't ever convince anyone who doesn't look thru biased WW-colored glasses or anti-Superman glasses. How many times do we have to go thru this?1. That was a handi-capped Superman (as in he was hallucinating and didn't know who he was fighting so didn't know that object thrown at him was a tiara).
2. That was only a "technical win" for Diana as Clark looked much better throughout the rest of fight even though he was hallucinating.
I know it's hard for you bullheaded Diana fans to accept this but she's a clear tier below him. Hell, she even admitted to him in A League of One that "I know I cannot beat you". That was a WW book too, btw. But I'm sure all u WW fanboys/girls will make up some lame excuse like she didn't really mean it or something.
Quit drinking the kool-aid. WW has never beaten or even come close to beating Superman in a fair fight. She is not a "top-tier" character.
In Sacrifice, she looked good, and then stalled him to snap Max Lords neck, because if she didn't, he was going to beat her and take over Earth. [Evidence in Booster Gold, when the timeline changed so Max didn't get his neck snapped because Booster tried to save Beetle, he took over the Earth using Superman.]
Originally posted by Juntai
She is a top tier character, however you are right, the narrative has never truly been that she was equal to Superman. Even she has admitted that she can only slow him down.In Sacrifice, she looked good, and then stalled him to snap Max Lords neck, because if she didn't, he was going to beat her and take over Earth. [Evidence in Booster Gold, when the timeline changed so Max didn't get his neck snapped because Booster tried to save Beetle, he took over the Earth using Superman.]
LOL. NO, she's not. Keep telling yourself that though if it makes ya feel better. 👆
Originally posted by Juntai
She is a top tier character, however you are right, the narrative has never truly been that she was equal to Superman. Even she has admitted that she can only slow him down.In Sacrifice, she looked good, and then stalled him to snap Max Lords neck, because if she didn't, he was going to beat her and take over Earth. [Evidence in Booster Gold, when the timeline changed so Max didn't get his neck snapped because Booster tried to save Beetle, he took over the Earth using Superman.]
The problem is, though, that technically she also claims that during Sacrifice she was holding back against Superman, a Superman apparently out to murderize her, and not only is she holding back and still not dying(despite him doing shit like easily breaking her wrist via squeezing) but she is..sneaking up on the dude while he is using super hearing to prevent her from sneaking up on him...and bashing his ears. There was no "ancient Amazonian technique of silence" or anything, just "oh, my super hearing I guess doesn't apply to within 15 feet of me".
But yes she is top tier, it's weird for anyone saying otherwise. Top tier doesn't mean it is being said she is superior to Superman.
...and again, it doesn't matter if he was blood-lusted because he was still hallucinating. WW fans can keep ignoring that all they want to but that's the reason why they'll never convince anyone who isn't a WW fanboy/girl or a Superman hater that she's in same league as him. He still outperformed her by far throughout the whole friggin' fight up until the very end. Oh, and of course the PIS moment when she was some how able to sneak up on him. Have to ask yourself, if she is in same category as him then why did she feel it necessary to hide from him lke a coward and sneak up on him?