........vs Superman without his weaknesses

Started by abhilegend32 pages

Originally posted by abhilegend
Eh?
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Eh? What's "Eh?" So you're Canadian now?

Let me help you out with an example. He asks you:

Polaris brought him down to his knees.....he has resisted being cut off from his power source?

You next response:

A random EM being just almost killed Surfer by draining him. Your point is?

Not only do you ignore his question, you respond with a question about his point, which was not yet established. And of course no Abby Whinehouse post is complete without the lowball adjective "random." Whether you are aware of it or not, you do this all the time bro. Communication is two way. When you ignore the other persons points, minimize them or discount them, you troll. The irony is your response was what was random.


I mean, what are you trying to do here? I informed him about Superman resisting better energy manipulators than Surfer.

He tried using a low showing for Superman, I informed one for surfer.

Are you really this inane?

Originally posted by Genii96
So between..draining him dry as a bamboo stick,molecular manipulation,manipulating the sun's radiation in such a way that it dosent touch supes,attacking his soul,attacking him on an astral level,throwing him into a black hole,causing the sun to go supernova,sealing him into his board..(I think I am missing some)..which way do u think supes goes down the fastest
if you are arguing cbr or powerset Surfer then Superman simple sings him out of existence.

Also, Superman can still win the normal way against a cbr Surfer.
Supes simply prevents Surfer from draining by not allowing Surfer to grab him. This can be done via evasive movements or attacking Surfer.

Superman can prevent soul tactic by simply attacking Surfer.

Surfer can't throw Superman anywhere as Superman is stronger and faster in combat. Plus black holes do nothing to Superman. Superman has energy reserves and can fight outside the presence of solar energy for weeks if not months.

Surfer can't do anything he wasn't shown to do or is an immediate subset of what he has shown. High Herald level beings have resistance to transmutation. You would have to show Surfer transmuting a being on or above Superman's level. Especially, considering Superman was shown resisting transmutation before.

Surfer can't seal Superman in his board because Superman can go intangible, is strong enough to break the board, is fast enough to avoid tactic, and can attack Surfer to prevent the attempt.

So since Superman has a defense to any exotic attack made by Surfer and is a lot stronger and is faster in combat then a normal Superman beats a cbr Surfer.
The only tactic Surfer can win with is red solar radiation (which is not allowed here).

Originally posted by abhilegend
I mean, what are you trying to do here? I informed him about Superman resisting better energy manipulators than Surfer.

He tried using a low showing for Superman, I informed one for surfer.

Are you really this inane?

You didn't answer his question and you asked him a question. That's what you do.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, better than Surfer actually. A random EM being just almost killed Surfer by draining him. Your point is? That was due to sun getting snuffed out. Don't start making shit up. We already have carver for that. Better than Surfer actually.

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I would like to see surfer able to devolve entire JLA.

Gladly.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=14498920&highlight=neron+userid%3A133437#post14498920

Here not even a shaman going toe to toe with Spectre can do that.

I would like to see who has surfer trapped in his board who is even as durable as Superman.

Well, surfer can't do that. So nothing usable here.

Shrugged off hits from Mjolnir? Is that same mjolnir which oneshotted him? Superman has survived hits from abstracts level being and has actually punched through them. You'll lose going in a feat war with Superman in that front.

Hulk was weakened and actually KTFO surfer in a few hits when he was freed from control disk while Hulk was wearing the control disk.

That's not a very good showing for surfer.

Oh really? What about deflecting a ship and getting KTFO in the process? Or getting killed in destroying a moon physically? You can show all these feats from Surfer where he takes a nanosecond to go intangible and uses his cosmic awareness to learn of his enemy's weaknesses and then actually beat them?

Because you are just throwing speculations here without any feats to back them up.

He could use all of those and wouldn't even beat Superman, let alone "push his shit in".

But throw wild speculations all day kid. I have actual feats, what do you got?

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Superman is just in an entirely different bracket

Okay
1) I ask I supes has withstood having his solar energies absorbed in a fight,he responds with he has from a guy better than surfer..3esponds with my dr plaris point with a question of his own

2)I point out that surfer can manipulate the sun's rays so as not to reach spes's body,basically 'starving' him of his power,and pointing out what no sunshine will do,his response,don't bring up shit

3) Asks about molcular manipulation..:e brings up a guy named disciple who barely altered the molecules of anyone there,mostly just causing their powers to go haywaire..only wonderwoman was even definately affected and she was still speaking

4)Asks him to show me where supes has resisted a soul crush..he shows me a scan of mxy playing with supes mind,absolutely no similarities btw the two..incase u dnt know,attacking the mind and the soul r two very different things

5)Asks him about resisting being sealed,he shows supes resisting being possessed by a shaman..where in the same scan spectre blatantly said he was in a dream plane and his power there was beyond imagination..absolutely no similarity..next he says about supes durability,..,newsflash,sealing dosent look at physical durability

6) Plays off surfer's feat against planet hulk,blatantly ignoring the fact that surfer was also weakened with a disk and also beat the shit out of hulk,with hulk only getting those hits after surfer stopped fighting,and the fact that surfer easily got right back up after hulk's attacks,also ignoring the fact that surfer beat hulk and the other ones at the same time,while apologising. Claims mjonir always oneshots surfer..only time I remember that is blood and thunder,which is riddled with PIS..their later fights had surfer worrying more about thor's own wounds than his own,shrugging of jyst about every attack thor gave him,infact thor was hurting himself attacking surfer more than he hurt surfer,he busted his own head headbutting surfer.

But hey, I guess am gonna have to post some cool feats to look at,gimme some time.

So, people are crying foul about Abhi bringing up stuff from before Surfer's power-up, and then go and do the same for Superman, and attacking Abhi for being wrong, but nobody has the balls to take up his BZ challenge. Gotcha.

1) Matter manipulation
- recreates a city
http://i.imgur.com/6sJicok.jpg

-affects thousands of people on an atomic scale
http://i.imgur.com/pHhKUpb.jpg

- turns jack of heart's insides to mush

Energy attacks
- blows a planet in a clash with morg,he is unharmed
http://i.imgur.com/704Tkq2.jpg

-effortlessly blows a planet just to make a point
http://i.imgur.com/15QC13F.jpg

- destroys the enslaver ship that dwarfed the earth
http://i.imgur.com/HTuXrL5.jpg

-absorbs the uni lord's power and vvapes a solar system
http://i.imgur.com/cKgxxVn.jpg

- vapes a planet and leaves a black hole in its place,travelling light years in seconds

Speed:
Moves from earth to halfway accross the galaxy in seconds
http://i.imgur.com/Wl7489L.jpg

Catches up to someone 3 light years away
http://i.imgur.com/0dslPGf.jpg

Among others...oh yea and this one too
Rips through vibranium walls
http://imgur.com/a/NorqD#0

Launches a spaceship out of the solar system with enough force to keep it travelling for centuries

Originally posted by Delta1938
So, people are crying foul about Abhi bringing up stuff from before Surfer's power-up, and then go and do the same for Superman, and attacking Abhi for being wrong, but nobody has the balls to take up his BZ challenge. Gotcha.

Uh-huh,didn't his last challenge end up in a ban fiesco?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/8/84878/2181419-ss.jpg

Bloodlusted surfer is a very bad thing.

Originally posted by Genii96
Okay
1) I ask I supes has withstood having his solar energies absorbed in a fight,he responds with he has from a guy better than surfer..3esponds with my dr plaris point with a question of his own

2)I point out that surfer can manipulate the sun's rays so as not to reach spes's body,basically 'starving' him of his power,and pointing out what no sunshine will do,his response,don't bring up shit

3) Asks about molcular manipulation..:e brings up a guy named disciple who barely altered the molecules of anyone there,mostly just causing their powers to go haywaire..only wonderwoman was even definately affected and she was still speaking

4)Asks him to show me where supes has resisted a soul crush..he shows me a scan of mxy playing with supes mind,absolutely no similarities btw the two..incase u dnt know,attacking the mind and the soul r two very different things

5)Asks him about resisting being sealed,he shows supes resisting being possessed by a shaman..where in the same scan spectre blatantly said he was in a dream plane and his power there was beyond imagination..absolutely no similarity..next he says about supes durability,..,newsflash,sealing dosent look at physical durability

6) Plays off surfer's feat against planet hulk,blatantly ignoring the fact that surfer was also weakened with a disk and also beat the shit out of hulk,with hulk only getting those hits after surfer stopped fighting,and the fact that surfer easily got right back up after hulk's attacks,also ignoring the fact that surfer beat hulk and the other ones at the same time,while apologising. Claims mjonir always oneshots surfer..only time I remember that is blood and thunder,which is riddled with PIS..their later fights had surfer worrying more about thor's own wounds than his own,shrugging of jyst about every attack thor gave him,infact thor was hurting himself attacking surfer more than he hurt surfer,he busted his own head headbutting surfer.

But hey, I guess am gonna have to post some cool feats to look at,gimme some time.

Superman can fight optimally without sunlight for weeks.
You must prove that Surfer can matter manipulate someone on Superman's level or above.
Surfer won't get a chance to soul crunch. And since you are using powerset Surfer then Superman sings him out of existence. Superman goes intangible, operates within Pico second and murder stomps Surfer.

Everything you say for Surfer Superman can do better and faster. Also Superman can counter or prevent everything you said.

Originally posted by Genii96
Uh-huh,didn't his last challenge end up in a ban fiesco?

Never saw it. Link?

It happened in either the Silver Surfer vs Superman thread or this thread.

Originally posted by Genii96
Uh-huh,didn't his last challenge end up in a ban fiesco?

Um... That dies not mean that it has to end up thw same way now.

Abhi has plenty of battlezones that HAVE NOT ended on bans.

Plus he Abhi was the one temp banned, not the guy repping surfer. He did not got banned so woest case scenario you will get Abhi banned.

But like I said he has plenty of battlezones with out getting into any sort of trouble so that thing happened ONCE

Originally posted by carver9
It happened in either the Silver Surfer vs Superman thread or this thread.

It happened ONCE.

He has plenty of BZ's that haven't end up on temp bans for him or the other debator

So please guys, stop poisoning the well and STOP HIDDING behind the exemption

Originally posted by Genii96
Okay
1) I ask I supes has withstood having his solar energies absorbed in a fight,he responds with he has from a guy better than surfer..3esponds with my dr plaris point with a question of his own
I informed he has better resistance feats. Like against Sun Eater.

2)I point out that surfer can manipulate the sun's rays so as not to reach spes's body,basically 'starving' him of his power,and pointing out what no sunshine will do,his response,don't bring up shit
Can he? Post a scan of such.

3) Asks about molcular manipulation..:e brings up a guy named disciple who barely altered the molecules of anyone there,mostly just causing their powers to go haywaire..only wonderwoman was even definately affected and she was still speaking
Are you ****ing serious here? Disciple owned entire JLA before and was owning them again.

4)Asks him to show me where supes has resisted a soul crush..he shows me a scan of mxy playing with supes mind,absolutely no similarities btw the two..incase u dnt know,attacking the mind and the soul r two very different things
I posted Superman overpowering Neron you goof.

5)Asks him about resisting being sealed,he shows supes resisting being possessed by a shaman..where in the same scan spectre blatantly said he was in a dream plane and his power there was beyond imagination..absolutely no similarity..next he says about supes durability,..,newsflash,sealing dosent look at physical durability
They were not in dreamplane, they were in the physical plane. And the Shaman was trying to take over him and turn him into a talisman.

Of course it does.

6) Plays off surfer's feat against planet hulk,blatantly ignoring the fact that surfer was also weakened with a disk and also beat the shit out of hulk,with hulk only getting those hits after surfer stopped fighting,and the fact that surfer easily got right back up after hulk's attacks,also ignoring the fact that surfer beat hulk and the other ones at the same time,while apologising.
None of those happened. Surfer only headbutted Hulk once and was attacking him with a charged mace. Hulk was totally fine. While surfer was KTFO.
Claims mjonir always oneshots surfer..only time I remember that is blood and thunder,which is riddled with PIS..their later fights had surfer worrying more about thor's own wounds than his own,shrugging of jyst about every attack thor gave him,
Yeah, just regular surfer fan. Claims that B&T is PIS and ignores that later Thor was weakened.
infact thor was hurting himself attacking surfer more than he hurt surfer,he busted his own head headbutting surfer.
Which dented Surfer's head too.

But hey, I guess am gonna have to post some cool feats to look at,gimme some time.

There is absolutely nothing you can show which I haven't already seen.

Originally posted by Genii96
1) Matter manipulation
- recreates a city
http://i.imgur.com/6sJicok.jpg

-affects thousands of people on an atomic scale
http://i.imgur.com/pHhKUpb.jpg

- turns jack of heart's insides to mush

Energy attacks
- blows a planet in a clash with morg,he is unharmed
http://i.imgur.com/704Tkq2.jpg

-effortlessly blows a planet just to make a point
http://i.imgur.com/15QC13F.jpg

- destroys the enslaver ship that dwarfed the earth
http://i.imgur.com/HTuXrL5.jpg

-absorbs the uni lord's power and vvapes a solar system
http://i.imgur.com/cKgxxVn.jpg

- vapes a planet and leaves a black hole in its place,travelling light years in seconds

Speed:
Moves from earth to halfway accross the galaxy in seconds
http://i.imgur.com/Wl7489L.jpg

Catches up to someone 3 light years away
http://i.imgur.com/0dslPGf.jpg

Among others...oh yea and this one too
Rips through vibranium walls
http://imgur.com/a/NorqD#0

Launches a spaceship out of the solar system with enough force to keep it travelling for centuries


Nothing special compared to feats Superman has.

So a guy who has escaped the source wall twice will somehow be trapped in Silver Surfer's board?

I didn't know Surfer's board >>>>>The Source Wall.

I know both feats are high end but it seems this is the game we are playing.

Also wasn't surfer cut in pieces and almos killed on that cpu ship. I know is one of the most highly praised feats of Surfer for surviving for a while even though he was cut into pieces.

But guess who can shoot lasers from his eyes and scatter all the pieces with super breath?

Sensory imput overload does work on the SS. Nebula disrupted thw SS power that way. TVO anyone?

Lunatik anyone?

Superman can basically reduce Surfer to a mobile blaster. If Surfer tries anything else then he will get popped fast and hard. Surfer will not be allowed to do all the cool things his fans are arguing. They assume Superman will sit there and watch him do whatever he wants. Superman will be attacking and keeping Surfer off balance. Superman is much stronger and if he punches Surfer then it's almost a done deal. HV WILL AFFECT Surfer since it has easily penetrated beings that can survive in core of stars AND the fact that it is concussive as well.
Superman's block ice attack can indeed slow Surfer down.

Superman can litterally shatter Surfer's board with pure physical force. Surfer wouldn't be able to fly or be mobile. He would be a sitting duck.

H1. Prove that Surfer versatility takes time and post a scan please.

The Surfer turns someone into nothing but atoms with the flick of his wrist.

http://i.imgur.com/hTPkcFF.jpg

It takes no time for him to do anything. Stop making up stuff.