........vs Superman without his weaknesses

Started by carver932 pages

Originally posted by abhilegend
It's a weaker Superman. So, no.

And you need to stop making shit up. Starbreaker himself says that opposing Superman and Hal had drained him completely.

Seriously, after all this time you think you can pull one over me?

Was the JLA fighting him? Yes or no.

Originally posted by carver9
Was the JLA fighting him? Yes or no.

What did Starbreaker say Carter?

Are you going to straight up deny the statement?

Originally posted by abhilegend
What did Starbreaker say Carter?

Are you going to straight up deny the statement?

I know what he said but what happened on panel ABHI? I never said Superman and Hal had nothing to do with that showing, because they did but you have to give credit where credit is due. His attention was also focused on other JLA members. Even if it wasn't, what in the WORLD does that have to do with him tanking punches from Supes?

Stop trying to discredit Surfer when Supes has similar showings. Just stop.

That's not what starbreaker said. He specifically said that Superman and Hal depowered him.

So, no. You don't get to BS your way out here.

Not that it's applicable here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's not what starbreaker said. He specifically said that Superman and Hal depowered him.

So, no. You don't get to BS your way out here.

Not that it's applicable here.

What does that have to do with my scan? I don't get it. Superman could've threw a universe after his attack on Starbreaker. That still doesn't discredit what I posted or said. I don't agree with you interpretation above but I'm not going to argue over something that was not my point.

Originally posted by carver9
What does that have to do with my scan? I don't get it. Superman could've threw a universe after his attack on Starbreaker. That still doesn't discredit what I posted or said. I don't agree with you interpretation above but I'm not going to argue over something that was not my point.

😂

Just BS then. Good, good.

Originally posted by carver9
What does that have to do with my scan? I don't get it. Superman could've threw a universe after his attack on Starbreaker. That still doesn't discredit what I posted or said. I don't agree with you interpretation above but I'm not going to argue over something that was not my point.

This mofo is in FULL DENIAL. I almost feel sorry for him.

So between..draining him dry as a bamboo stick,molecular manipulation,manipulating the sun's radiation in such a way that it dosent touch supes,attacking his soul,attacking him on an astral level,throwing him into a black hole,causing the sun to go supernova,sealing him into his board..(I think I am missing some)..which way do u think supes goes down the fastest

Originally posted by Genii96
So between..draining him dry as a bamboo stick,molecular manipulation,manipulating the sun's radiation in such a way that it dosent touch supes,attacking his soul,attacking him on an astral level,throwing him into a black hole,causing the sun to go supernova,sealing him into his board..(I think I am missing some)..which way do u think supes goes down the fastest

H1 said it takes time for Surfer to do all of those attacks, more than a nanosecond, and by the time Surfer did all of that, Superman would've knocked Surfer out. What he's basically saying is, Superman is fighting at his Prime while Surfer is fighting at 10% of his power level.

Originally posted by carver9
H1 said it takes time for Surfer to do all of those attacks, more than a nanosecond, and by the time Surfer did all of that, Superman would've knocked Surfer out. What he's basically saying is, Superman is fighting at his Prime while Surfer is fighting at 10% of his power level.

H1 also says supes can punch with a force of 50 earth weights,thanos dosent have telepathy,..etc,alongside the BS he has been spewing in this thread...and when surfer drained hulk dry,he wasn't just standing..he was fighting him at the same time....supes oneshotting surfer with a punch is laughable..he has taken charged mjonir strikes and shrugged it off,not to mention he can easily make a forcfield..*nd it was never shown he needed time to do any of that..he always did those on a whim....he searched the entire planet before strange could make a sentence

Post annihilation surfer survived attacks from aegis and tenebrous on top of all that....

Originally posted by Genii96
So between..draining him dry as a bamboo stick,molecular manipulation,manipulating the sun's radiation in such a way that it dosent touch supes,attacking his soul,attacking him on an astral level,throwing him into a black hole,causing the sun to go supernova,sealing him into his board..(I think I am missing some)..which way do u think supes goes down the fastest

H1also argues the exact same thing you are, though.

Which one to choose?

By the time he decides, Supes has punched him in the face. And like it or not, its a simple but pretty effective tactic against Surfer.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
H1also argues the exact same thing you are, though.

Which one to choose?

By the time he decides, Supes has punched him in the face. And like it or not, its a simple but pretty effective tactic against Surfer.


Considering his cosmic awareness....deciding the best wouldn't be a problem...and he can take a punch,or just put up a forcefield round him,assuming he even needs seconds to figure it out..which he dosent....and he can absorb his solar energy while fighting at the same time....so that's another bonus

^ You should take abhi's challenge

Originally posted by Genii96
So between..draining him dry as a bamboo stick,molecular manipulation,manipulating the sun's radiation in such a way that it dosent touch supes,attacking his soul,attacking him on an astral level,throwing him into a black hole,causing the sun to go supernova,sealing him into his board..(I think I am missing some)..which way do u think supes goes down the fastest

Then it's a good thing he can't do any of those things to Superman who has resisted and overcame each and everything there?

By the time surfer tries to do all those things, Superman would just bash his head in.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Then it's a good thing he can't do any of those things to Superman who has resisted and overcame each and everything there?

By the time surfer tries to do all those things, Superman would just bash his head in.

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Right,right...supes has resisted having his solar energy messed with by an energy manipulator on the level of surfer? Polaris brought him down to his knees.....he has resisted being cut off from his power source? Does that even make sense?...wasn't it the scan where catchin bullets was getting hard for him when that happened?....he has resisted having his molecules rearranged by someone on surfer's level?I'd love to see that...he has resisted having his soul crushed?...pls show me....he has resisted being sealed in a board of surfer? They haven't even fought yet....superman resisted the sun going nova? Yup....I hear ya...

Bashing his head in? Yea..if surfer just stand there and looks at him,he has shrugged off hits from mjonir pre annihilation,and survived the onslaught of aegis and tenebrous post annihilation..his physical strength was enough to easily handle planet hulk without any cosmic power..superman vs surfer with his cosmic powers enhancing his strength would be a very tough fight, yea you can go ahead as usual and showcase supe's lifting feats and surfer's lack..however surfer's lack of feats are not because he has failed..but because he has not been in any situation as those...then add that to his forcefields,intangibility etc and keeping supes at bay in the 'nano second' it takes for his cosmic awareness to kick in and instantly allow him know which best move to take and push his shit in is not a problem...unless like others said,this is surfer fighting at only 10 percent....

And btw,surfer dosent 'need' to do all of those..any ONE of those gives him the win..mi just listed how many different ways he could push his shit in.

Originally posted by Genii96
Right,right...supes has resisted having his solar energy messed with by an energy manipulator on the level of surfer?
Yes, better than Surfer actually.
Polaris brought him down to his knees.....he has resisted being cut off from his power source?
A random EM being just almost killed Surfer by draining him. Your point is?
Does that even make sense?...wasn't it the scan where catchin bullets was getting hard for him when that happened?....
That was due to sun getting snuffed out. Don't start making shit up. We already have carver for that.
he has resisted having his molecules rearranged by someone on surfer's level?
Better than Surfer actually.

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I would like to see surfer able to devolve entire JLA.

I'd love to see that...he has resisted having his soul crushed?...pls show me....

Gladly.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=14498920&highlight=neron+userid%3A133437#post14498920

he has resisted being sealed in a board of surfer? They haven't even fought yet....
Here not even a shaman going toe to toe with Spectre can do that.

I would like to see who has surfer trapped in his board who is even as durable as Superman.

superman resisted the sun going nova? Yup....I hear ya...
Well, surfer can't do that. So nothing usable here.

Bashing his head in? Yea..if surfer just stand there and looks at him,he has shrugged off hits from mjonir pre annihilation,and survived the onslaught of aegis and tenebrous post annihilation..
Shrugged off hits from Mjolnir? Is that same mjolnir which oneshotted him? Superman has survived hits from abstracts level being and has actually punched through them. You'll lose going in a feat war with Superman in that front.

his physical strength was enough to easily handle planet hulk without any cosmic power..

Hulk was weakened and actually KTFO surfer in a few hits when he was freed from control disk while Hulk was wearing the control disk.

That's not a very good showing for surfer.

superman vs surfer with his cosmic powers enhancing his strength would be a very tough fight, yea you can go ahead as usual and showcase supe's lifting feats and surfer's lack..however surfer's lack of feats are not because he has failed..but because he has not been in any situation as those...
Oh really? What about deflecting a ship and getting KTFO in the process? Or getting killed in destroying a moon physically?
then add that to his forcefields,intangibility etc and keeping supes at bay in the 'nano second' it takes for his cosmic awareness to kick in and instantly allow him know which best move to take and push his shit in is not a problem...unless like others said,this is surfer fighting at only 10 percent....
You can show all these feats from Surfer where he takes a nanosecond to go intangible and uses his cosmic awareness to learn of his enemy's weaknesses and then actually beat them?

Because you are just throwing speculations here without any feats to back them up.

And btw,surfer dosent 'need' to do all of those..any ONE of those gives him the win..mi just listed how many different ways he could push his shit in.

He could use all of those and wouldn't even beat Superman, let alone "push his shit in".

But throw wild speculations all day kid. I have actual feats, what do you got?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, better than Surfer actually. A random EM being just almost killed Surfer by draining him. Your point is? That was due to sun getting snuffed out. Don't start making shit up. We already have carver for that. Better than Surfer actually.

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I would like to see surfer able to devolve entire JLA.

Gladly.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=14498920&highlight=neron+userid%3A133437#post14498920

Here not even a shaman going toe to toe with Spectre can do that.

I would like to see who has surfer trapped in his board who is even as durable as Superman.

Well, surfer can't do that. So nothing usable here.

Shrugged off hits from Mjolnir? Is that same mjolnir which oneshotted him? Superman has survived hits from abstracts level being and has actually punched through them. You'll lose going in a feat war with Superman in that front.

Hulk was weakened and actually KTFO surfer in a few hits when he was freed from control disk while Hulk was wearing the control disk.

That's not a very good showing for surfer.

Oh really? What about deflecting a ship and getting KTFO in the process? Or getting killed in destroying a moon physically? You can show all these feats from Surfer where he takes a nanosecond to go intangible and uses his cosmic awareness to learn of his enemy's weaknesses and then actually beat them?

Because you are just throwing speculations here without any feats to back them up.

He could use all of those and wouldn't even beat Superman, let alone "push his shit in".

But throw wild speculations all day kid. I have actual feats, what do you got?

Are you going to actually answer his questions or respond to any of him points or are you waving the white flag of surrender?

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Are you going to actually answer his questions or respond to any of him points or are you waving the white flag of surrender?

Eh?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Eh?

Eh? What's "Eh?" So you're Canadian now?

Let me help you out with an example. He asks you:

Polaris brought him down to his knees.....he has resisted being cut off from his power source?

You next response:

A random EM being just almost killed Surfer by draining him. Your point is?

Not only do you ignore his question, you respond with a question about his point, which was not yet established. And of course no Abby Whinehouse post is complete without the lowball adjective "random." Whether you are aware of it or not, you do this all the time bro. Communication is two way. When you ignore the other persons points, minimize them or discount them, you troll. The irony is your response was what was random.