Originally posted by Starscream M
ok. let's set a post limit...10 posts max each? only 10 posts...no non-official post bs.
Originally posted by Starscream M
gladiator...the guy who jobbed to even cannonball? yeah, a real Superman clone 🙄
Gladiator didnt job that entire fight, he crushed Cannonball and was about to send him to the core of the sun until cannonball absorbed the punch.
Now answer this question, who wouldnt that trick work against (cannonball absorbing all of your kinetic energy)?
That was cannonball only lick in that entire fight and it did nothing. So stop calling it a low showing when its not.
Originally posted by darthgooberjesus.
I'm involved in a tourney and the rough draft for my opening post was 15,000 chacters long just to give you an example of that type of debate.
my intro post was basically "Superman is too fast and too strong. He blitzes Surfer's head off."
I'm in favor of a post limit because I don't want to be simply overwhelmed by opposing posts. Also, limited posts allow for a perhaps more organized debate that both contestants and judges will appreciate. A complete back and forth may be more entertaining but will also be more messy, prone to going to tangents, and hard to follow.
anyways, we can discuss this more later. I'm tired.
Originally posted by Naija boyCo-sign
Surfer has sed the enrgy drain in numerous fights against hulk,firelord,pyschoman etc. bringing up thor and BRB is foolish since there is no energy to drain and he is able to beat terrax so easily that he doesnt have to.Off as well as on his board, surfer has forcefields to protect himself and the board becomes an additional extremely dangerous melee weapon that can operate at speeds faster than supes.
Originally posted by TheKahn
The point was that Norrin can easily [b]avoid a physical confrontation with Superman through his intangibility giving him ample time to use his numerous other abilities to take Superman down.Take away Superman's ability to physically touch the SS and he'd be as impotent against the Surfer as you, me, or Uncle Ben. [/B]
what's the likelihood of him actually doing it, though?
Originally posted by Naija boy
Yes it the most effective and thats why i didnt dwell on the fact that the process used to remove the energy was through red sun radiation. However Ruins output is nowhere near that of SS(not even close to half) and so he cant be used as a basis for comparison.
why not? you assume surfer can just remove days worth of solar energy from superman's cells before superman can mount his own offence?
Originally posted by Starscream M
jesus.my intro post was basically "Superman is too fast and too strong. He blitzes Surfer's head off."
I'm in favor of a post limit because I don't want to be simply overwhelmed by opposing posts. Also, limited posts allow for a perhaps more organized debate that both contestants and judges will appreciate. A complete back and forth may be more entertaining but will also be more messy, prone to going to tangents, and hard to follow.
anyways, we can discuss this more later. I'm tired.
Starscream, not saying anything about you but you are going to lose this. Surfer feats is just on a different level than most if not all high heralds.
Originally posted by Starscream M
jesus.my intro post was basically "Superman is too fast and too strong. He blitzes Surfer's head off."
I'm in favor of a post limit because I don't want to be simply overwhelmed by opposing posts. Also, limited posts allow for a perhaps more organized debate that both contestants and judges will appreciate. A complete back and forth may be more entertaining but will also be more messy, prone to going to tangents, and hard to follow.
anyways, we can discuss this more later. I'm tired.
In fairness to Blair though, if we go with the post count we'll have to wait until I'm done with the tourney. Essay posts take time and I'd feel bad if Blair and I lost the tourney because I was trying to divide my attention between the workloads. We can still do it of course, it'll just be a bit before I'm avalible.
Originally posted by -Pr-
what's the likelihood of him actually doing it, though?
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How the hell should I know? I'd assume its about the same as Superman using his myriad of powers instead of just his fists the next time he fights a brick. Same goes for Thor.
In the end, the only "odds" that really matter are the odds that each character gets a writer who knows the extent of the characters powersets and is creative enough to use them thoroughly. For the purposes of this forum, SS would have to fight like a mentally impaired lemur and forget to use most of his established powers for Superman to stand a chance.
Originally posted by -Pr-
why not? you assume surfer can just remove days worth of solar energy from superman's cells before superman can mount his own offence?
Surfer has drained his exact equal in power in seconds. Its not a long process at all. Regardless that is a different point altogether with nothing to do with the ruin incident which i have shown to be invalid.
Originally posted by TheKahn
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How the hell should I know? I'd assume its about the same as Superman using his myriad of powers instead of just his fists the next time he fights a brick. Same goes for Thor.In the end, the only "odds" that really matter are the odds that each character gets a writer who knows the extent of the characters powersets and is creative enough to use them thoroughly. For the purposes of this forum, SS would have to fight like a mentally impaired lemur and forget to use most of his established powers for Superman to stand a chance.
but superman has on panel showings of deciding to stop playing around. you're talking about a very specific combat maneuvre.
Originally posted by Naija boy
Surfer has drained his exact equal in power in seconds. Its not a long process at all. Regardless that is a different point altogether with nothing to do with the ruin incident which i have shown to be invalid.
so he's going to: examine superman to find out that he's powered by the sun. come up with a way to absorb days worth of stored solar energy in a matter of miliseconds, and he's going to accomplish all of this while avoiding superman?
it's not invalid at all. it's the best example you're going to find of superman being drained.
Originally posted by -Pr-
but superman has on panel showings of deciding to stop playing around. you're talking about a very specific combat maneuvre.
Honestly, I think its Superman's popularity that keeps him in fights like this more than anything else. If he was a C or D list hero instead of one of DC's Trinity nobody would give him a snowball's chance in hell against someone like SS.
Originally posted by -Pr-
so he's going to: examine superman to find out that he's powered by the sun. come up with a way to absorb days worth of stored solar energy in a matter of miliseconds, and he's going to accomplish all of this while avoiding superman?
Yes 😐
He capable both of nanosecond reactions and instant detection of beings along with their meta-abilities thanks to his cosmic awareness.
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Originally posted by TheKahnHonestly, I think its Superman's popularity that keeps him in fights like this more than anything else. If he was a C or D list hero instead of one of DC's Trinity nobody would give him a snowball's chance in hell against someone like SS.
I disagree.
I think it's Superman's resume that makes people think he could take Surfer.
Superman is THE top dog in a universe filled with uber heroes and villains, and Superman is time and again the one called to save the day when all others fail.
Sure, Surfer has a shitload of fancy powers, but Superman's effectiveness out-trumps Surfer's versatility imo.
Originally posted by Starscream M
I disagree.I think it's Superman's resume that makes people think he could take Surfer.
Superman is THE top dog in a universe filled with uber heroes and villains, and Superman is time and again the one called to save the day when all others fail.
Sure, Surfer has a shitload of fancy powers, but Superman's effectiveness out-trumps Surfer's versatility imo.
That kind of proves my point there. Similarly to Batman's mythical ability to "find a way to win," it appears that Superman's "effectiveness" (read: popularity) triumphs any real advantage his opponent has.
The only way Superman can win is with his fists, while the Surfer has nearly a dozen different ways to win thank to all his "fancy powers," yet none of that matters because Superman is more "effective".
Yep. You've convinced me. 😐
