John McClane versus Rambo...

First of all, NOT a spite thread. Read on and be objective....

Rambo happens to be in Nakatomi as Hans and his cronies attack. McClane and Rambo obviously make quick work of them.

McClane is on his way to get Holly, who has been hiding in her office. Rambo is on his way to the lobby. They run into one another on the mid levels of Nakatomi. Mac thinks Rambo is a terrorist, and vice versa.

Both are at full strength, no injuries (Mac has no glass in his feet.)

Mac has his Beretta with 5 spare mags, and his submachine gun with 8 spare mags.

Rambo has a .45 with 3 spare mags, and Karl's machine gun with five spare mags. No bowie knife. he broke it off in Karl's ass.

As the battle begins, they are around 50 feet from each other, and there is cover everywhere.

Who wins?

Rambo. Cause he is more skilled, has better damage soak, and killed more people in all of his films.

Also, Rambo is a better shot, and a faster shot.

Also, Rambo was and is in better shape than John McClane ever was or is.

Rambo also is a better H2H fighter.

Rambo doesn't need luck. He makes his own luck by ripping Luck's head off, biting out it's Larynx and using the larynx as chewing tobacco, and shooting people through Luck's bowels, just to silence his shots.

I agree, but you gotta remember Mac has experience fighting in this environment, Rambo does not.

Damage soak is close, I dunno how well Rambo would have done with glass in his feet.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I agree, but you gotta remember Mac has experience fighting in this environment, Rambo does not.

No he doesn't. If McClane is in the Nakomi building, this is Die Hard 1. They both would have equal experience, at that point.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Damage soak is close, I dunno how well Rambo would have done with glass in his feet.

I disagree. Rambo survived with bullets in his abdoomen. Rambo wouldn't have even flinched when he stepped into the class. He would have just used the shards in his feet to roundhouse kick and decapitate someone's head of and then said, "American. American." while pointing to himself.

Agreed, but Mac seemed to take to it like a duck to water.

Bullets in the abdomen?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Agreed, but Mac seemed to take to it like a duck to water.

Bullets in the abdomen?

But, it was actually shrapnel.

It was in his side.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
It was in his side.

It was through his abdomen. Front to back. That would include the side. But calling it just "the side" would greatly downnlay what actually happened there. It was not just a superficial graze. It was through his abdomen. Front to back.

I wonder how well Rambo would fare with glass in his feet.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I wonder how well Rambo would fare with glass in his feet.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Rambo wouldn't have even flinched when he stepped into the [g]lass. He would have just used the shards in his feet to roundhouse kick and decapitate someone's head of and then said, "American. American." while pointing to himself.

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I dont think its such an easy Rambo victory, dude.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Rambo. Cause he is more skilled, has better damage soak, and killed more people in all of his films.

Also, Rambo is a better shot, and a faster shot.

Also, Rambo was and is in better shape than John McClane ever was or is.

Rambo also is a better H2H fighter.

Rambo doesn't need luck. He makes his own luck by ripping Luck's head off, biting out it's Larynx and using the larynx as chewing tobacco, and shooting people through Luck's bowels, just to silence his shots.

Better shot that a man whom, with a snubnose 38, took out a phone cable from like 40 ft away...?
Faster/better shot than a man who drew a ducttaped pistol (from behind his shoulders, no less) and immediately headshotted one guy and caught the other guy while he was partially covered by a hostage...? Rambos more of a machine gun sprayer.

I totally agree that Rambo's physical fitness was better/sharper than McClane's in the first three Rambo movies..
But many many of McClane's victims have been fitter than he was.
Ultimately, all it made them in the end was a fitter corpse.

Yeah H2H is something that I'll have to take your word for, as its been ages since I watched these movies, and I largely remember most of Rambos action being shooting, stabbing kinda stuff.
And all that world class fort bragg training and stuff..?
McClane killed a couple of squads of those guys in DH2 alone.

Actually Rambo has needed luck. He wouldn't ever have made it out of that gourge in FB otherwise.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Better shot that a man whom, with a snubnose 38, took out a phone cable from like 40 ft away...?
Faster/better shot than a man who drew a ducttaped pistol (from behind his shoulders, no less) and immediately headshotted one guy and caught the other guy while he was partially covered by a hostage...? Rambos more of a machine gun sprayer.

I totally agree that Rambo's physical fitness was better/sharper than McClane's in the first three Rambo movies..
But many many of McClane's victims have been fitter than he was.
Ultimately, all it made them in the end was a fitter corpse.

Yeah H2H is something that I'll have to take your word for, as its been ages since I watched these movies, and I largely remember most of Rambos action being shooting, stabbing kinda stuff.
And all that world class fort bragg training and stuff..?
McClane killed a couple of squads of those guys in DH2 alone.

Actually Rambo has needed luck. He wouldn't ever have made it out of that gourge in FB otherwise.

The gorge? You mean where he killed Galt, and got the arm scar?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Rambo. Cause he is more skilled, has better damage soak, and killed more people in all of his films.

Also, Rambo is a better shot, and a faster shot.

Also, Rambo was and is in better shape than John McClane ever was or is.

Rambo also is a better H2H fighter.

Rambo doesn't need luck. He makes his own luck by ripping Luck's head off, biting out it's Larynx and using the larynx as chewing tobacco, and shooting people through Luck's bowels, just to silence his shots.

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Rambo is not a better shot, man.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Rambo is not a better shot, man.

what shots of mcclane's do you think make him better than rambo?

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Better shot that a man whom, with a snubnose 38, took out a phone cable from like 40 ft away...?
Faster/better shot than a man who drew a ducttaped pistol (from behind his shoulders, no less) and immediately headshotted one guy and caught the other guy while he was partially covered by a hostage...? Rambos more of a machine gun sprayer.

I totally agree that Rambo's physical fitness was better/sharper than McClane's in the first three Rambo movies..
But many many of McClane's victims have been fitter than he was.
Ultimately, all it made them in the end was a fitter corpse.

Yeah H2H is something that I'll have to take your word for, as its been ages since I watched these movies, and I largely remember most of Rambos action being shooting, stabbing kinda stuff.
And all that world class fort bragg training and stuff..?
McClane killed a couple of squads of those guys in DH2 alone.

Actually Rambo has needed luck. He wouldn't ever have made it out of that gourge in FB otherwise.

Case closed.

Originally posted by -Pr-
what shots of mcclane's do you think make him better than rambo?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The .38 snub nose shot sadako quoted.

ah. that was pretty impressive. i'd still take rambo, though, tbh.

As for the damage soak question:

Rambo is trained to deal with pain, to take damage and keep on going. McClane? He just....you know......does it. No training like Rambo, he just sucks it up and presses on.