Ganondorf v.s. Cloud

Started by linkownsyousobs19 pages

Link can't pick up the pillar with gauntlets. Gauntlets go around his arms. So his legs aren't going to have super omega strength behind them. And if they did, why the hell can't he jump? People are putting Link at Goku level in terms of strength.

The Master Sword is the only thing that can kill Ganon but you do not need it to harm him. The KoR could very well hurt him and you give me no reasons to believe otherwise.

Link can't pick up the pillar with gauntlets. Gauntlets go around his arms. So his legs aren't going to have super omega strength behind them.
..I lol'd. So, explain his legs not buckling, kthnx?

And if they did, why the hell can't he jump? People are putting Link at Goku level in terms of strength.
Gameplay mechanics. As we keep telling you. It would totally destroy the layout of the final dungeon.
The Master Sword is the only thing that can kill Ganon but you do not need it to harm him. The KoR could very well hurt him and you give me no reasons to believe otherwise.

I've given you reason.
1. The mastersword is kryptonite to Ganon.
2. Link hits harder with kryptonite than KoR can hit without it.

Therefore: KoR hits softer without kryptonite, and thus will not hurt Ganon.

Any questions?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Give me one destructive feat for it. Does it one shot Sephiroth at least? If not, it won't hurt Ganondorf. 😐 Sephiroth has no durability feats. The closest thing he has comes form Jenova, who did what bacteria do all the time, albeit more likely having what amounts to an alien seatbelt and shield of some sort. (IE, from what we know about her "piloting" space rocks, it's very likely she was protected from the impact.)

Jenova was suposed to be the strongest lifeform in the cosmos...

in the FF7 cosmos...

Universes exist within the cosmos, ALL universes Ganons power is no where near her power. But that isn't of this discussion
And the MS thing doesn't go into play here.

Universes exist within the cosmos, ALL universes Ganons power is no where near her power. But that isn't of this discussion

Nah. FF7 doesn't decide Zelda canon, sorry, boyo. Nice try though.

Also, by feats, Ganon is superior to Jenova in every way.

And the MS thing doesn't go into play here.
Yes it does. Because if Ganon can survive being struck by it, harder, then he is too durable for a not MS to do damage hitting him lighter. Comprende?

His legs do not buckle because its not that heavy.

I guess anything that limits Links strength is chalked up to gameplay mechanics.

The master sword is kryptonite yet the biggoron sword is still stronger? Oh wait, gameplay mechanic nevermind. One hit > 13 hits? Still a gameplay mechanic I guess. Gosh damn there is no way around the gameplay mechanics that conveniently turn the battle in favor of Zelda characters.

Jenova destroyed universes at a time, what about Ganon?
And Cloud's sword has much bigger mass than MS, so his sword wouldn't do NOTHING.

His legs do not buckle because its not that heavy.

No, his legs didn't buckle because he's a fictional character capable of lifting it. His legs are just as strong as the rest of him, he's not pop-eye. Quit reaching, this has already been adressed and I will ignore this point if you continue to persue it as I've already proven you wrong.
The master sword is kryptonite yet the biggoron sword is still stronger? Oh wait, gameplay mechanic nevermind.
Bingo.
One hit > 13 hits?
Four, actually, and those hits are like comparing being hit with a baseball bat with being hit with a pillow, by your kid sister, who has no arms. 😐 Link is much stronger.

Jenova destroyed universes at a time, what about Ganon?
Show this? =P

And Cloud's sword has much bigger mass than MS, so his sword wouldn't do NOTHING.
Which assist his meager strikign power, but not even close to enough to put him on par with Link. You'd have to be high to think so. a 5 tonner with a really big bat will not hit harder than a thousand ton-chucker with a smaller one.

Read the several books on FFVII. They show Jenova's true power.

And this fictional character can't slash through a crate with his sword? Or a building? I'm just saying that I know what pillar your talking about. Didn't seem to be thousands of tons.

Haha Link is stronger than the knights because I say so. Love the logic. Kryptonite or not, people can still hurt and injure superman, right?

Yep linkownsyousobs you hit the nail on the head.

I'm just saying that I know what pillar your talking about. Didn't seem to be thousands of tons.

So, you're vague guess with a clear lack of comprehension on how much density can affect the weight of something, somehow over-rules everything? ..No.

Haha Link is stronger than the knights because I say so. Love the logic. Kryptonite or not, people can still hurt and injure superman, right?

No, Link is stronger because he has *feats*, where he shows his strength.
If they have kryptonite.

Originally posted by fortinbross
Read the several books on FFVII. They show Jenova's true power.
The burden of Proof is on you not him. telling him to read for your proof isn't acceptable.

I have already told him, he doesn't believe me, the burden of proof is now on him. If he doesn't care enough to actually read it then neither do i. I MIGHT be able to find one online in a link of the book.

Here this MIGHT help a bit.

faqs.ign.com/articles/698/698416p1.html

Originally posted by fortinbross
I have already told him, he doesn't believe me, the burden of proof is now on him. If he doesn't care enough to actually read it then neither do it. I MIGHT be able to find one online in a link of the book.
Thats because you failed to release physical evidence or specific books that(officiallY) state this claim you make. therefore it never happen. telling him to go look for a vague book you never mentioned its name isn't helping you.

You mean I should consider density in something fictional, use formula's to estimate the weight of a pillar which could, but very likely doesn't, way thousands of tons. Unless you bring me evidence, not produced by fan logic and stats, meaning it has to be from Miyomoto's mouth, that that pillar was thousands of tons, then yeah it does over rule it.

Doomsday killed him. No kryptonite.

the link is "not found"