Darth Starkiller vs. Kain

Kain wtfassrapes this forum...

In a sense

Fay ftw. I'm not an in-depth Star Wars fan, but I did come across her article whilst browsing Wookiepedia in an attempt to generate a homebrew rule set for lightsaber combat styles for a d20 SW game I was looking into setting up.

*stops and re-reads above* Wow...so much nerdtrocity in one sitting. 😄

You were looking for lightsaber combat ideas and ended up on Fay? Fail 😛

See Form "Zero." 😉

Yeah, not entirely unexpected she would pop up there 😛

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
I wrote an elaborate post yesterday but my computer crashed, so I will just post the brief version here:

- Absorbing Force Lightning is part of the general Force absorb ability, an ability shown to reoccur often enough to not be rare in Star Wars. Obi-Wan Kenobi has absorbed Force Lightning, and in Obi-Wan's own words, Fay was the most powerful of the group on Queyta, the group which included Obi-Wan.

This may be the case but its faulty to say that the two instances can be compared. Kenobi did one thing which is a much smaller application than Galen's. While it's relatively easy to block FL with a lightsaber, doing so with your bare hands has been canonally stated to be 'practically impossible' to do and requiring vast skill. Not to mention he was doing so to the lightning of 'most powerful Sith ever' Darth Sidious, the guy whose Lightning almost overpowered "I can punch through steel" Mace Windu who was using an easier version of the technique.

And to my memory, Obi-Wan felt insignificant in their presence because they were all so much more powerful. Legends, while he was a mere master.

And Obi-Wan has never demonstrated anything special with the Force that makes Fay that great. Starkiller towers over her in both skill and power.

Originally posted by Shutter Control
Kain wtfgetsassraped in this forum...

Fixed.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Starkiller towers over her in both skill and power.

What are you basing this on? The fact that he has grander feats, I presume.

Originally posted by Burning thought
What good is a saber throw or force crush, Kain could quite easily escape such things through mist or teleportation? theoretically even by going ethereal.

Isn't that mist crap a no-limit fallacy?

But yeah, Kain gets the shit beat out of his ass.

Originally posted by iChaos
Isn't that mist crap a no-limit fallacy?

But yeah, Kain gets the shit beat out of his ass.

In that sentence it is not.

If Starkiller wins its based on speed alone, which is his strongest asset and perhaps one of Kains weakest. If he did not have precog or the speed then he could be easily killed and his attacks evaded, I would still like to see his force crush and saber throws myself though.

YouTube video

Can we all just agree that Starkiller is a lame overpowered protagonist like Fool Anakin and call it a day?

while i don't agree with the Fool anakin part, i do agree that Starkiller is a hurt to star wars. he is a very cool game character and has cool powers, its just overdone and doesn't flow with the rest of star wars.

that being said, he still wins the fight

based on that vid his saber throw does not look too fast on throwing, it looks quicker on its way back and could probably be predicted and avoided before Starkiller throws although the force crush would not be so simple, it looks very quick.

Originally posted by Maester_yoda
while i don't agree with the Fool anakin part, i do agree that Starkiller is a hurt to star wars. he is a very cool game character and has cool powers, its just overdone and doesn't flow with the rest of star wars.

that being said, he still wins the fight

i thought you were referring to his character being a fool. his actions were foolish if thats what your getting at

Originally posted by Burning thought
based on that vid his saber throw does not look too fast on throwing, it looks quicker on its way back and could probably be predicted and avoided before Starkiller throws although the force crush would not be so simple, it looks very quick.

The slow-motion throw?

Well as I said "based on the video" and thats the only saber throw I saw.