Originally posted by Maester_yoda
i thought you were referring to his character being a fool. his actions were foolish if thats what your getting at
Love won't save you Padme. Only mah new powahz can do that!
It's over Anakin! I have the highground!
You underestimate my powah!
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Maybe you all should take a look at Darth Caedus - he was able to look at potential different futures. He was a Sith Lord. Starkiller was nowhere near the strength of him. As for Anakin, if he killed Obi-Wan he would have become what Luke is in the EU. Sidious is the strongest Sith in history yes, but if Caedus survived that might be a different story.
So Fay turning Ventress unconscious and giving her life energy to boost Obi-Wan vastly are just amateur moves, then. Her ability to survive after virtually having had her chest melted is something that Starkiller could do anytime. Fay being able to protect internal organs from Force Crush is definitely proof that Starkiller is vastly more skillful with the Force than her, because he could do that anytime, right?
Originally posted by Q'Anilia
So Fay turning Ventress unconscious and giving her life energy to boost Obi-Wan vastly are just amateur moves, then. Her ability to survive after virtually having had her chest melted is something that Starkiller could do anytime. Fay being able to protect internal organs from Force Crush is definitely proof that Starkiller is vastly more skillful with the Force than her, because he could do that anytime, right?
oooohhhh burn.....While fay never used a lightsaber, being able to transfer life enrgy is something ive only seen the force itself do. i.e. when luke was almost dead on dathomir and the rocks and trees and grass started giving their life to save his, that was the will of the force. For fay to do the same thing would mean she is awesomely strong and has an intricate knowledge of the force that starkiller only hopes to have
Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Fay being able to protect internal organs from Force Crush is definitely proof that Starkiller is vastly more skillful with the Force than her, because he could do that anytime, right?
Originally posted by ares834
I would assume so... Afterall he did defeat Vader and Vader was a master of force crush, not to mention he threw off Vader's choke.
haha no not quite. shrugging off a force choke, no real big deal. We are talking about Fay and her ability to keep her internal organs going AFTER she was stabbed through the chest with a lightsaber. She used the force to save her body from being crushed completely. Vader never did that in the fight vs Galen, and we don't see Galen doing any such feat. she was able to keep herself going, probably could have survived had she not given her life force to Obi-wan
Originally posted by Maester_yoda
haha no not quite. shrugging off a force choke, no real big deal.
We are talking about Fay and her ability to keep her internal organs going AFTER she was stabbed through the chest with a lightsaber. She used the force to save her body from being crushed completely.
Correct me if I am wrong, but did not Darth Vader pull a Force Choke on Starkiller? Ventress pulled a Force Crush on Fay's heart and Fay protected herself against it with thought alone. Did not even make hand gestures or other fancy stuff.
I want to believe there is a difference between slowly having your throat air-pipe grasped and suffocate and having your heart directly touched in an attempt to compress it into scraps.
Force Crush > Force Choke if you ask me, Ventress or not. Darth Vader has showed Force Crush in the past, so the fact that he choked Starkiller indicate either that he did not really try to kill him, or that he was on the lazy/underestimating side. Either way, for as long as Darth Vader used choke, he was not exerting full power = Saying it was Darth Vader and not some weak Ventress is irrelevant, since Darth Vader obviously did not give his all to kill Starkiller.
And again, Force Choke =/= Force Crush.
Fay would have survived the killing strike by Ventress, but she took her chances with Obi-Wan instead. Fay implied not even wanting to survive, almost being eager to die once she knew that the mission was completed. So she gave Obi-Wan a Force boost and Obi-Wan, her remaining life energy. She literally gave Obi-Wan more of the Force, she gave him power and actually her life (Literally). How many Jedi has shown such Force potency? I know there is Darth Plagueis and the Skywalker rumor, but we do not really know much about him.
I have not read all there is about Star Wars, but Fay is the only case I know of where one individual transfer its Force over to another. Fay is also the only individual I know that has protected her internal organs from Force Crush.
She is one of few, if not the only one with human durability that would survive a fatal attack with two lightsabers through her chest thanks to her vast connection to the Force, actually using the Force to stay alive at a time that would kill virtually any Jedi. I do not even think there are any implications that Yoda, Darth Sidious or even Luke Skywalker would survive that.
Originally posted by Q'Anilia
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Correct me if I am wrong, but did not Darth Vader pull a Force Choke on Starkiller? Ventress pulled a Force Crush on Fay's heart and Fay protected herself against it with thought alone. Did not even make hand gestures or other fancy stuff.
Fay would have survived the killing strike by Ventress, but she took her chances with Obi-Wan instead.
She literally gave Obi-Wan more of the Force, she gave him power and actually her life (Literally). How many Jedi has shown such Force potency? I know there is Darth Plagueis and the Skywalker rumor, but we do not really know much about him.
She is one of few, if not the only one with human durability that would survive a fatal attack with two lightsabers through her chest thanks to her vast connection to the Force, actually using the Force to stay alive at a time that would kill virtually any Jedi. I do not even think there are any implications that Yoda, Darth Sidious or even Luke Skywalker would survive that.