Originally posted by Darth Jello
"We're sorry. We hate to interrupt but it's against the law to jump off this bridge. You'll just have to kill yourself somewhere else. A tourist might see you and we wouldn't want that"
-Jello Biafra, Soup Is Good Food
I didn't say we should let people be a public nuisance.
Originally posted by inimalist
rather than keeping fuel at the large ovens in concentration camps, the ovens were heated such that the body of one victim could be used to fuel the fire that killed the next victim. They had detailed documents about it.I learned about it whhen looking at the trial of a Holocaust denier. Pictures of the camps, when they were liberated, showed no fuel source for the ovens, which the denier used as evidence that they could not have been killing jews at the camp. The documents showed how the Nazis painstakingly set up the ovens to require only more bodies to keep burning, at what rate they needed to be provided, etc.
Disgusting...and that kind of smell sticks with you for life.
But, the deniers got pwned. ✅
Originally posted by dadudemonAs a Latin word, used in science (especially zoology), homo means man. Also, I'd like to point out that it is a word of both latin and greek origins. It has no history.
Actually, it would be:homo = same (It's Latin in origin.)
phobia = fear (It's Greek in origin.)
So it would really be "same fear."
The implied is "fear of same sex attraction." That's because it is supposed to be homosexual phobia.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaosad hominem.
I'm not sure if this is you being an actual idiot or one of your "I'll claim this is true and see if people buy it" things.
Actually, It's true, either way, "man fear (zoologic/scientific defenition)" or "Same fear" it doesn't translate to "same sex romance fear" which would be more like "homosexualiphobia" and you can be damned sure that no other english speaking society in history except for the greeks, who wouldn't have spoken Latin to ad the Latin suffix, would have made up this word. If you can find this word in literature over 50 years old, I applaud you. the word is as legitimate english as "'sup" is. It's a word made up by the homosexual community to cast negative aspersions on people who disagree with their lifestyle.
Originally posted by One Free Man
As a Latin word, used in science (especially zoology), homo means man.
Whilst this is true, there is no denying that the etymology of 'homosexual' comes from the Greek 'homos' (same) rather than the Latin 'homo', because the opposite is 'heterosexual' which is from the Greek 'heteros' meaning 'different'.
The construction of the word 'homophobia' is indeed entirely artificial in that respect (because whilst the word itself is entirely Greek, the word it was built from, homosexual, is a Greek/Latin hybrid), but any logical analysis of how the word came together means that if you try and say what its classical root is, it reads "Fear of the same". If you try and make out it is "Fear of man", you are basically just remaking the classical meaning to suit yourself simply because it is spelled similarly to another meaning, which is never a good idea. There's no point trying to claim technical superiority for the Latin root either- the Greek root is used in plenty of of technical terms.
But in any case, that's all trivial. 'Homophobia' is a word not used iterally; it is a word used to embody the social concept of prejudice against homosexuals. If that is a recent verbal construct, it is because only relatively recently in western society has a concept of social equality for homosexuals evolved. If you are going to try and deny that there is prejudice against homosexuals... you are going to look foolish I am afraid.
Originally posted by AbnormalButSane
But kissing is hardly ****ing. hmm
Originally posted by §P0oONY
It works for kissing to, if a girl is kissing random people in a club, she's classed as a slapper.
Yeah, you listen to Spoony, he gets to decide what his made up words that he put on Urban Dictionary mean. 😠
Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
If two guys want to **** each other in the ass that's their business. If two women want to munch each others carpet that's also their business. Should they be entitled to any legal rights recognizing such things.....absolutely not.
I think it is less about the sexual relations they partake in and more about the spiritual and emotional union they have similar to a heterosexual couple. And yes, they should get rights that protects that bond, it is essentially equal to a heterosexual one. That is if you are in favour of those special rights for couples at all. I personally find it a sickening form of discrimination.
Originally posted by Bardock42Slapper isn't a made up word. Ask any Briton what a slapper is and they'll know.
Yeah, you listen to Spoony, he gets to decide what his made up words that he put on Urban Dictionary mean. 😠I think it is less about the sexual relations they partake in and more about the spiritual and emotional union they have similar to a heterosexual couple. And yes, they should get rights that protects that bond, it is essentially equal to a heterosexual one. That is if you are in favour of those special rights for couples at all. I personally find it a sickening form of discrimination.
Originally posted by UshgarakI agree, but the application is too broad. Anyone who disagrees with any homosexual ideal is labeled homophobic. It's not a fear, or an unnatural hate to believe that homosexuality is not a productive practice, it's a disagreement.
But in any case, that's all trivial. 'Homophobia' is a word not used iterally; it is a word used to embody the social concept of prejudice against homosexuals. If that is a recent verbal construct, it is because only relatively recently in western society has a concept of social equality for homosexuals evolved. If you are going to try and deny that there is prejudice against homosexuals... you are going to look foolish I am afraid.
To hate, kill, refuse services, or treat someone in a unique way due to, but not pertaining to their sexuality, is "homophobia" in the similar definition as the word "xenophobia." I don't do this.
If you use the broad witch-hunt style use of the word "homophobia", yes, I am a homophobic. I disagree with the sexual ideals and morals of the homosexual community. Do I hate homosexuals or treat them differently than normal other people? no.
Originally posted by One Free Man
I agree, but the application is too broad. Anyone who disagrees with any homosexual ideal is labeled homophobic. It's not a fear, or an unnatural hate to believe that homosexuality is not a productive practice, it's a disagreement.To hate, kill, refuse services, or treat someone in a unique way due to, but not pertaining to their sexuality, is "homophobia" in the similar definition as the word "xenophobia." I don't do this.
If you use the broad witch-hunt style use of the word "homophobia", yes, I am a homophobic. I disagree with the sexual ideals and morals of the homosexual community. Do I hate homosexuals or treat them differently than normal other people? no.
Slightly ironic that you attack the term for being too broad and then follow that with "Anyone who disagrees with any homosexual ideal is labeled homophobic", which is definitely too broad an accusation, using terms like 'anyone' and 'any homosexual ideal'. This is not the case at all, even if you could define what a 'homosexual ideal' is.
It doesn't matter how I use it. The important point is how it is used. As I say, it refers to the concept of social prejudice against homosexuals. Either you are part of that or you are not. It is not something to be proud of if you are. If you spend too much time trying to justify your position, it starts to look very likely that you are indeed part of that prejudice.
The question of the thread is "do you think you are a homophobic?"
The homosexual called people who voted yes on 8 "homophobic"
Therefor, in their terms, and politically, I am homophobic.
The way I treat homosexuals in my day to day life style is very civil and polite, the same way I treat straight people.