Infinity Gauntlet Vs. Cosmic Armor

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Originally posted by SoulDevourer
btw about the Magus vs Quasar thing : did it say onpanel that Magus use some kinda mind trick/TP on Quasar? i dont think so 🤨

Originally posted by rotiart
Theoretically They might survive but they be useless in true unspace...

In ff 4.... Well last 20 issues :-p
it's shown that an infinity gem has no power outside it's respective reality

dunno about reality gem tho (that wuz the missing gem right?). but if the other gems can work in unspace then why not reality gem also

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
and yet Magus did mix those 2 universes while he wuz outside them 😈

dunno about reality gem tho (that wuz the missing gem right?). but if the other gems can work in unspace then why not reality gem also

and we are conveniently forgetting the cosmic towers set up in infinity wars that linked his realm in the crossroads to the 616 realm...

so... magus citadel was linked to 616... and the ig is from 616...

And the two universes were being mixed by five cubes not the ig

wut...when Magus mix those 2 universe he wasnt in no citadel he wuz just...outside...like, nowhere (unspace) rilly it shows in onpanel anyway 😕

Originally posted by rotiart
And the two universes were being mixed by five cubes not the ig

but then he use the IG (w/o RG) to mix the 2

tho now that u mention it...IG > cosmic cube right?

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
wut...when Magus mix those 2 universe he wasnt in no citadel he wuz just...outside...like, nowhere (unspace) rilly it shows in onpanel anyway 😕

wait one, iirc he only use the cubes to create dat 2nd universe (actualy they was cube simulators or somethin right? basicly same thing as cubes)

but then he use the IG (w/o RG) to mix the 2

tho now that u mention it...IG > cosmic cube right?

The magus used cosmic relays to link his power to earth... to do that he had to use numerous relays from where he was in the crossroads of realities going all the way to 616 earth... which was what the heroes used to find magus.

If you read the comic, magus is actually inside his citadel during the entire confrontation with thanos and adam warlock. The only time he isn't is when he destroys the citadel with adam warlock.

And the relays linked magus's power all the way to 616... meaning that magus himself is linked to earth when he wears the ig.
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu111/Rotiart26/Quasar/WarlockInfinityWatch008-02.jpg
for example, for mr. fantastic to use the ig, he had to touch his own universe....
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu111/Rotiart26/ff_572_008.jpg

first while it looks like he's outside, he isn't.... if you read the entire issue, it shows that he is actually inside his ship the entire time..

and yes. the ig is greater in power than the combined 5 cubes as stated by thanos and magus each separately in the issues.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Seeing as the UN can and has destroyed and remade the entire multiverse (including the IG and many alternate IGs) I'd put it above the IG in terms of scale and power.

When in fact, there was NO 616 IG in existence,
because TOAA (Starlin) deemed it so back in 1992.

Originally posted by rotiart

You state the ig manipulated/defeated the un on panel. Prove it. I provided a lot. Of the scans fm the entire infinity war saga

If you say the writer himself Jim starlin said that the ig is greater than the un. Prove it. Greater how. Destructive power... Overall uselfulness... Show us the quote.

Prove on panel or with starlins statements that the ig can manipulate the un.

That's not Starlin talking through characters which can then depend on the characters's make-up/mindset.

That's Jim Starlin speaking directly to the reader
via writer narration panels.

This debate has gone on for so long,
when Marvel itself has already told us that ...

The Eternity that Reed remade with the UN is the SAME Eternity that Thanos/IG stomped,
and the SAME Eternity's power Dormy merged with in 616!

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616 Eternity 2006 Bio: (concerning the IG)

616 Eternity 2006 Bio: (concerning Reed using the UN)

616 Eternity 2006 Bio: (concerning Dormy in 616 and merging with Eternity power) *

And what exactly is 616 Eternity anyway?

616 Eternity's Power:

"Wolds within Worlds, Dimensions folding into themselves,
Entire UniverseS being born, and collapsing into ruin,
and yet I sense that ALL this -- is but a fraction of what Eternity is,

the core, the Heart of Eternity's being ... here All Energy, All Matter, lies,
I will detonate Eternity's Heart --- triggering another Creation event,
Re-Birthing every being and thing in All the UniverseS"

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*** 616 Eternity! ***

Eternity is Time incarnated ...

When he raises a Hand which holds whole universeS withIN it,

Past Present and Future"

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Stated by the Living Tribunal to be "Lord over All That IS"

(or are we to now imagine that "ALL THAT IS" ... is one reality to the LT? lmfao

Wait ... didn't Reed remake "all that is?" 😏

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Thanos/IG not only stomped in one move
Eternity (who holds whole UniverseS in one hand - past present & future)
Eternity (who kills & gives birth to UniverseS all day, who can re-make all UniverseS)
Eternity (lord of all that is)

Yet, the IG is really just Universal. 😆

btw. I'll be posting the scans soon,
where the 616 IG was going to take over TWO MultiverseS,
the Multiverse that contains the Ultraverse,
and the prime Multiverse which contains the 616 Reality.

And yep,
the Living Tribunal himself stated
that the IG would bring the demise of Rune's reality
(another/separate/different Multiverse)
"and perhaps his" (LT's - prime Multiverse) "own as well."

That will be an interesting read since no ig I've seen can work without some kind of connection to their originating universe.

And yes quasar learns what ultimate is..

In his own issues ultimate power requires the ultimate sacrifice as told to him by deathurge the avatar of self destruction. That to use the ig guarantees his death...

And as or the merging of the two universes...

In infinity watch six thanos tells us that it was all an illusion and magus tricked himself into think he had accomplished certain feats but that none of it was true without the reality gem... A gem he duplicated and created a fake gem of...

So thanos on panel tells us everything magus saw was an illusion to him

which is why when he believes he defeate the un... He didn't
in quasar 40 they don't show anything other than quasar destroying himself.

Originally posted by rotiart

That will be an interesting read since no ig I've seen can work without some kind of connection to their originating universe.

Originally posted by rotiart

And yes quasar learns what ultimate is..

In his own issues ultimate power requires the ultimate sacrifice as told to him by deathurge the avatar of self destruction. That to use the ig guarantees his death...

Originally posted by rotiart

And as or the merging of the two universes...

In infinity watch six thanos tells us that it was all an illusion and magus tricked himself into think he had accomplished certain feats but that none of it was true without the reality gem... A gem he duplicated and created a fake gem of...

So thanos on panel tells us everything magus saw was an illusion to him

Never ever did Thanos even hint that what Magus did was an illusion.

The only thing Thanos stated was that Magus only had a taste of Godhood,
because without the Reality Gem he was never GOD (absolute) of all reality.

But that aside, Xavier, Galactus and the Watcher all recognized the merger.

Originally posted by rotiart

which is why when he believes he defeate the un... He didn't
in quasar 40 they don't show anything other than quasar destroying himself.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Good, that way I can stop that fallacious misconception once and for all.

is this about the cosmic armour anymore?

People seem to think that IG>Un in terms of power. They try to use the IG user beating the UN user as their argument.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
People seem to think that IG>Un in terms of power. They try to use the IG user beating the UN user as their argument.

I broke down exactly what I and I alone have been arguing and your synopsis of mine (if that is who your referring to) is piss poor.

It wasn't towards you. I already replied to yours

Originally posted by Mr Master
Good, that way I can stop that fallacious misconception once and for all.

I don't see what this has to do with Starlin himself stating that "the word Ultimate
holds little weight in this current contest" (between the UN and incomplete IG)

... rot, I love ya man, but this is 100% false.

Never ever did Thanos even hint that what Magus did was an illusion.

The only thing Thanos stated was that Magus only had a taste of Godhood,
because without the Reality Gem he was never GOD (absolute) of all reality.

But that aside, Xavier, Galactus and the Watcher all recognized the merger.

I disagree'

Okay at this point you haven't changed my stance... Although you have before. I believe that we each are ending up with different interpretations of the exact same on panel references. You read it one way. I read it another. Lets stop with the tangent ig vs un argument in this thread and go back to ig vs ca. Agreed?

:-)
great points mr m. :-)

Originally posted by rotiart

And the relays linked magus's power all the way to 616... meaning that magus himself is linked to earth when he wears the ig.
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu111/Rotiart26/Quasar/WarlockInfinityWatch008-02.jpg
for example, for mr. fantastic to use the ig, he had to touch his own universe....
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu111/Rotiart26/ff_572_008.jpg

first while it looks like he's outside, he isn't.... if you read the entire issue, it shows that he is actually inside his ship the entire time..

and yes. the ig is greater in power than the combined 5 cubes as stated by thanos and magus each separately in the issues.