Originally posted by OneDumbG0
All you're doing is grasping at straws. Now that it's shown on-panel that the UN accomplished a feat that far outstrips anything the IG has ever done, now we dismiss it because the writer later on wrote about Rulk? All this does is show how badly cornered you are.Full IG couldn't kill Maelstrom. Ignorance is bliss I know. Manipulation doesn't prove superiority. Otherwise Doom is more powerful than Surfer. It's common sense. Apply it.Doesn't matter. Because the only way that you'll accept that UN > IG is if Quasar who held it, was completely unaffected by IG. Which is absolutely retarded, because that's what happened in the Maelstrom episode. I'm using your own logic against you. Quasar being affected or not doesn't mean squat. When are you going to ever figure this out?
I'm saying that manipulating a small localized sphere of nullification doesn't mean you have the power to destroy/recreate the entire Marvel Multiverse. Same as if Human Torch siphoning a small portion of heat from Firelord doesn't mean that Human Torch is Herald+. Doesn't matter. UN is still more powerful. On-panel.
Your argument stomps mine in the stupid department. Just because something was later shown to be more powerful than the IG and it had nothing to do with Thanos doesn't make it any less true. Using "handgun > rocket launcher" or "Black Alice > Spectre" doesn't change that.
Manipulation doesn't presume superiority. Repeating the same wrong argument doesn't change how wrong it is.
No, no, no. I have shown you exactly how these two stack up against each other. I have shown you the power gem can make a thought reality. The power gem can draw power from anything in the known universe including your precious un.
The Magus manipulated the power of the un without the reality gem meaning the power gem accomplished this feat. The power gem makes thought into reality. It's been described as supreme within it's universe which includes the un among other beings. The only being we can argue on panel that held the upper hand against the ig was the Lt. That's it who far outclasses the un as well.
What the hell does the ig not killing Maelstrom have to do with anything? Thanos with the ig didn't kill Eternity either did he? No, he imprisoned the other abstracts as well and proved he was superior. He put a little bit more into it than an angry blast. You fail to grasp the situation and common sense here. That's not on me it's on you. I mean it's so easy to understand the ig hadn't killed anyone in that manner on the level of Maelstrom anyways so he isn't the exception to this at all. Phone a friend if you need to.
When Adam Warlock blasted Eternity he said it wouldn't have done a damn thing if it were an all out battle. That was an angry outburst very much comparable to the Maelstrom blast. Common sense.
The power gem HAS NO LIMITS. It also can tap into the power source, any power source. Why not manipulate that blast if you can? The power gem/ig is more powerful than the un. It's so painfully obvious.
The power was affected. Quasar or any other user is irrelevant. Why don't you get it? A thought manipulated the every energies it had nothing to do with the competence of the user. I still find it very funny you don't get this and want to pretend that Reed has been firing this thing for years which explains how he accomplished the feat. The ig wasn't in that story hence the feat was accomplished. The power gem can manipulate/draw power from that very item. I win.
The ig makes one supreme in the same universe the un was in. The un looked like an outdated toy when we saw them in comparison minus the reality gem.
It's never been more powerful, ever. You want to keep ignoring the power gem abilities to bolster your own feeble argument while ignoring a writer's perspective, common sense, and a direct comparison.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I love how by definition the reality and power gem are redundant since both of them could (according at least to Quan's interpretation) do anything the others could do.
It's explained right on the scans I put up. It's cut and dry. To combat the uber threats such as Eternity you'd need all the gems but in terms of power the power gem really is the backbone of the ig.
