Originally posted by rotiartWhat gem manipulated it then? He doesn't have the reality gem and you see my scan so logically what did it? It's on panel evidence.
I don't see the power gem being able to manipulate the un. Not specifically on panel. and since i only use on panel evidence. thats all i have to go on.
Originally posted by rotiartSo why didn't the blast hit him? It seems you want to ignore how the writer tells the story and only take out what you want to. I gave you two examples. Hey, you have a right to your opinion and I have a right to mine. I don't ignore on panel evidence though.
No gem affected it. He only thinks he did. There was nothing on pnale showing by way of pictures or narration that any gem affected the un
Originally posted by rotiartI know I don't want to sound rude but I feel I backed up my case.
I posted around 7-12 scans in this thread... Highlighting my points...
Originally posted by rotiartI have the tie ins as well. I have Quasar's entire run well had it...sigh till I lost what I didn't have on disks. I think the writer was conveying to us how easily the ig can manipulate the un. Whether you think it can without the reality gem is immaterial to this thread as it's the real mccoy.
And the on panel evidence I'm providing are not just from the main issues but the tie ins also,
Nothing is the real McCoy. You have nothing other than his statement....
If you take characters by their statements one issue... An them the fact that an issue later it's stated that they are delusional...
You aren't backing yourself up well. The gems don't sparkle. Narration does not say what he did to the gems. You keep assuming the damn power gem when there is nothing. Not one word on panel. Saying it was the power gem.
Not one. In the entire ig iw and ic series. I read through all three just for this argument to see if it mentions it. It doesn't.
You have his words which are baseless
Originally posted by rotiartHe didn't have the reality gem and still stopped Quasar from using it against him. The reason he didn't win this event is because he lost control of reality due to him not possessing the reality gem. With it he would have won.
Nothing is the real McCoy. You have nothing other than his statement....
If you take characters by their statements one issue... An them the fact that an issue later it's stated that they are delusional...You aren't backing yourself up well. The gems don't sparkle. Narration does not say what he did to the gems. You keep assuming the damn power gem when there is nothing. Not one word on panel. Saying it was the power gem.
Not one. In the entire ig iw and ic series. I read through all three just for this argument to see if it mentions it. It doesn't.
You have his words which are baseless
Both on panel statements can only tells us they are occurring with statements. You won't to pretend they don't mean anything and assume the writer gives us these details to confuse us which is asinine.
My scan states exactly what magus did without the reality gem. It's pretty obvious. The power gem can dip into any power source which includes your un. I guess that doesn't count either.
Either you have a hard time understanding what on panel evidence is or you are trolling. Either way I'm done arguing against someone whose entire argument is predicated on two scans
And you say all these things about what the ig did to the un when you cannot provide one on panel piece of evidence it did, or can do what you claim...
And your assumption of things that can't be proven because you want to win point is asinine.
I have said countless times you cannot count this feat as the ig proving itself greater when the iw series indicates magus that he did not affect the un... And all the tie ins say he doesn'tAnd even the main series does not show pictures or narration...
As I've said it has been interpretation over and over again. It is not fact. If you believe what magus says about the ig affecting the un.. Then what about him saying he is the original and warlock is the shade... Or that for all his knowledge of cosmic awareness he was confused even while wielding the ig...
I'm done aguing with someone that is trying to use something that has never been depicted on panel... As on panel evidence. Your reaching tires me and I feel like Larry trying to explain to balki how a car works on perfect strangers
Originally posted by rotiartI have the Magus stating he did so. He told us. You want to pretend the writer laid a booby trap in the story.
Either you have a hard time understanding what on panel evidence is or you are trolling. Either way I'm done arguing against someone whose entire argument is predicated on two scansAnd you say all these things about what the ig did to the un when you cannot provide one on panel piece of evidence it did, or can do what you claim...
And your assumption of things that can't be proven because you want to win point is asinine.
I have said countless times you cannot count this feat as the ig proving itself greater when the iw series indicates magus that he did not affect the un... And all the tie ins say he doesn'tAnd even the main series does not show pictures or narration...
As I've said it has been interpretation over and over again. It is not fact. If you believe what magus says about the ig affecting the un.. Then what about him saying he is the original and warlock is the shade... Or that for all his knowledge of cosmic awareness he was confused even while wielding the ig...
I'm done aguing with someone that is trying to use something that has never been depicted on panel... As on panel evidence. Your reaching tires me and I feel like Larry trying to explain to balki how a car works on perfect strangers
With a thought he manipulated the energies. You are trolling because it states right on panel. You couldn't even find my scans so it's clear you are kinda incompetent imo.
Yes, you can. It's like you want to disregard his two statements and pretend it didn't happen. The power gem can draw strength from anywhere anyways. Does that statement count as well or do you pretend it doesn't?
Because Quasar was trying to use the un against him and the Magus said he manipulated the energies with a thought. My scan backs this up when Thanos explains the basic functions of the power gem.
You're balki in this scenario.
Why do you keep dodging my question, can the power gem draw power from anywhere or is the un off limits for some unexplained reason?
The power gem is power infinite. When has it ever drawn someones powe I to it.
As for reaching I'm on an iPhone and looking through 45 pages to find two scans when you don't acknowledge my responses is the same when I also provided scans.
We also have the magus admitting he didn't even know he was missing the reality gem... And that his cosmic awareness (perception) wasn't working. If it wasn't swirling how the heck dis he know he affected the un.
And fir the last time. It is not shown on panel he stopped quasar from doing anything. You interpret it.
And there are plenty of characters who have made claims that they never lived up to....
Thanks for responding balki. But your argument are weak. Your scans incomplete so they don't tell the whole story.
You know what. Your right. You aren't balki. Balki was the cooler charcter on the show. Larry was the arrogant ignoramus that acted often without having all the facts.
Originally posted by rotiartIt's power is accessing power from any source. That's why it's infinite.
The power gem is power infinite. When has it ever drawn someones powe I to it.As for reaching I'm on an iPhone and looking through 45 pages to find two scans when you don't acknowledge my responses is the same when I also provided scans.
We also have the magus admitting he didn't even know he was missing the reality gem... And that his cosmic awareness (perception) wasn't working. If it wasn't swirling how the heck dis he know he affected the un.
And fir the last time. It is not shown on panel he stopped quasar from doing anything. You interpret it.
And there are plenty of characters who have made claims that they never lived up to....
Thanks for responding balki. But your argument are weak. Your scans incomplete so they don't tell the whole story.
You know what. Your right. You aren't balki. Balki was the cooler charcter on the show. Larry was the arrogant ignoramus that acted often without having all the facts.
Ah, didn't know you were on an iphone.
Yes, but everything else he had functioning properly he just didn't have complete mastery over reality. Everything else he knew and when he described the gems he kinda glossed over the reality gem. The scan I put up shows he can manipulate power with a thought and he didn't have the reality gem when he accomplished the feat. It isn't a stretch what I am saying here.
He tells us he did. That's the only way the writer can convey the message to us. You just refuse to accept it.
My arguments is sound and supported by on panel statements and the abilities of the gems used.
Your debating tactic is the nuh uh game. You ignore everything you want to and pretend the un's feats only count. That's how I see it anyways.
Quanchi:
I'm just saying it was never shown on panel which was the greater and left to us to interpret what if anything happened. Now while one issue leads us to believe magus did affect the un, iw issue 5...
Quasar issues 37-40 lead to a different argument...
Which is why I say on panel... You can assume anything happened
like maybe he used the mind gem since it requires so much concentration
or soul gem...
Or space gem to contain the blast to quasar...
On panel we don't knownfor sure which is why I say we simply don't have an idea which is stronger. Was it a gem at all or was it like deathurge said and quasar would die without being able to fire the un....
See that's the other thing deathurge, the herald of oblivion knew using the un would kill quasar.... He wasn't sure quasar had the stuff to figure out how to fire it properly.
Originally posted by rotiartIt was shown on panel which one was greater and someone even posted a direct interview playing down the un in comparison to the ig.
Quanchi:
I'm just saying it was never shown on panel which was the greater and left to us to interpret what if anything happened. Now while one issue leads us to believe magus did affect the un, iw issue 5...
Quasar issues 37-40 lead to a different argument...Which is why I say on panel... You can assume anything happened
like maybe he used the mind gem since it requires so much concentration
or soul gem...
Or space gem to contain the blast to quasar...On panel we don't knownfor sure which is why I say we simply don't have an idea which is stronger. Was it a gem at all or was it like deathurge said and quasar would die without being able to fire the un....
See that's the other thing deathurge, the herald of oblivion knew using the un would kill quasar.... He wasn't sure quasar had the stuff to figure out how to fire it properly.
The power gem was described in the same manner as Thanos described it in Thanos quest. It's easy to add up when you think about the power gem and what it's capable of.
Ig>un>ca imo.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It was shown on panel which one was greater and someone even posted a direct interview playing down the un in comparison to the ig.Ig>un>ca imo.
abc logic = fail
again. not shown. on panel. at all. i am tired of trying to get you to understand that
pictures = 👆
narration = 👆
the statements of a person who is deranged = 👇
here the un is thought by surfer and galactus to be the most powerful weapon in the entire universe:
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu111/Rotiart26/INFINTYWARS04-08.jpg
here thanos says that the un should easily defeat the magus...
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu111/Rotiart26/INFINTYWARS04-38-1.jpg
if you want to go by people's statements.
Originally posted by rotiartIt was actually broken down by the writer. 😬
abc logic = failagain. not shown. on panel. at all. i am tired of trying to get you to understand that
pictures = 👆
narration = 👆the statements of a person who is deranged = 👇
He was no more or less deranged than any other megelomaniac trying to take out the universe or rule it.
Thanos also made the statements with the ig. The ig means you kinda know this stuff don't cha think?
Originally posted by rotiartUntil it was matched up against the ig and easily thwarted. The writer further said there is no contest.
here the un is thought by surfer and galactus to be the most powerful weapon in the entire universe:
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu111/Rotiart26/INFINTYWARS04-08.jpghere thanos says that the un should easily defeat the magus...
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu111/Rotiart26/INFINTYWARS04-38-1.jpgif you want to go by people's statements.
