Originally posted by Knowsbleed33No, this isn't herochat. And since we are on the subject it's obvious why they have a hall of fame and we don't. I bet you don't know the obvious reason though.
Is there a thread Hall of Fame here? If so, HoF this shit immediately.
Originally posted by Batman-PrimeNo, I was looking through some old pm's of mine to find some of my old sigs and the thread which inspired one of my sigs was due to your involvement in the thread I put up.
Are you now searching and reading every post I have wrote? 😱Someone called me biased? Wow. I bet you had the honour more often then i ever will 😉. Being called biased or fanboy I mean.
And what I can and what I can't is not up to you to decide 😉. To think that is indeed moronic. 😂
What you say doesn't really matter, I took you from ignore some days ago, I almost regrettet it, though now I enjoy it. You are funny in your twisted way, Quan. 😍
You aren't an impact poster and I didn't even remember you used to post here. 😂
Originally posted by Omega VisionIt's usually jealousy on their parts and the sole reason they do it is because they can't out debate me.
Ha, I'd love it if everyone dug up every time Quan's been called a troll.
Originally posted by Omega VisionThe point is Superman won't have time to get stronger as he will lose almost immediately. How can resist fighting Thanos when he is everywhere at once?
Pushing Mandrakk into the overvoid/PM =/=defense. 😐
Once the CA adapts beyond its attacker's ability it goes on the offense.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33I want to debate the topic at hand. The ig wins in any number of ways, soul manipulation, alters space, freezes in time, mindwipe, etc.
That's my reason for HoFing it. It's a proto-typical Quan debate. When he's been backed into a corner and can't fight his way out with logic and good debating, he derails the thread in order to take some heat off, and the thread goes on for a few more pages with an argument that really has nothing to do with the topic at hand.It goes on and on until it circles back to the beginning and starts over.
Superman just got stronger and fought back against eternal power which showed nothing impressive.
Originally posted by Omega VisionI won that thread as well.
I had an unofficial Battlezone of sorts with him in the Thanos vs Final Crisis thread where for about ten or twenty pages it was just him and me.
Originally posted by Omega VisionWell, I guess it means you feel a monkey can get you to admit you are wrong. Wow.
Damn lot to be jealous about. 😛
I'm pretty sure a retarded monkey can out debate you Quan.
Originally posted by Omega VisionI disagree. I won that thread hands down.
Exactly how did you win? If it were a battlezone not a single person would have given you the nod.
Lol at your revisionism and immaturity.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33You don't know why they have a hof on herochat do you? Only you would say something so utterly pointless here and not even know the reason for the hof in the first place. Quit bringing up herochat here and your problems over there. Stick to the topic.
Quan sounds like that spoiled rich kid with self-esteem issues."They're just jealous!"
Ig wins.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33How so? How can Superman ever hit Thanos with the space gem?
Yeah, Supes w/ CA wins.
Originally posted by rotiartMaybe the ig was multiversal.. Maybe it wasn't...
Originally posted by rotiartThe dimesnional corridor they were in connects all realities.
The magus set it up so relays connected his citadel to our universe and he was using those relays to merge the two realities... You can't deny that
Originally posted by rotiartand in the recent fantastic four it shows us very clearly you cannot use an ig without being in it's home universe
Originally posted by Omega VisionAnd yet we know that this isn't true. Perhaps it makes one master of one's home reality, in effect usurping Eternity's role but its clear that the LT was superior to the IG.
Remember friend, in Marvel, there are different levels of infinity.
Originally posted by Omega VisionI won't even try to claim to know a percent of what you know about the Marvel cosmic hierarchy but I know enough to understand that the IG user isn't omnipotent.
Originally posted by Omega VisionOmnipotence implies that nothing can overpower you and the IG has been overpowered by the LT. The LT isn't even omnipotent, he's damn close to it but he isn't and neither is the IG.
That aside, Marvel follows Cantor's real world theorem that supports levels of infinity.
Originally posted by Omega VisionIf the IG really made one GOD, as in TOAA then what's the point of the HOTU? You agree that HOTU>>>>IG right?
Originally posted by Omega VisionYour problem MM isn't one of knowledge: its one of logic. You're logically bankrupt and obsessed with false interpretations.
Originally posted by Omega VisionI did address it, perhaps you skipped over. Defeating Eternity and replacing Eternity is a universal feat
616 Eternity is Universal huh ... 😐
Originally posted by Omega Visionthe LT didn't even care to interfere because it wasn't that big of a deal.
It was only when Warlock got the Gauntlet
and started really causing trouble that he stepped in.
I find it funny
you saying that the LT interfered with Warlock cause he was causing trouble.
What are you talking about? hum
Warlock was doing anything, like, at all.
It was Eternity that decided to bring Warlock to trial,
and ONLY because Eternity felt he deserved the IG, and not Warlock.
Warlock lost his temper, and the LT decided this guy could be dangerous,
and so he ordered Warlock to disperse the Gems to other individuals.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Both you and Mr. Master have used the terms God and Omnipotent when neither of those things are true, even by comics standards. If the IG made Thanos truly omnipotent (IE Supreme Being, which is what beating the Cosmic Armor would likely take) then LT wouldn't have dwarfed its power and the HOTU wouldn't have been any different.
Cause right about now, you're using another orifice to communicate.
Originally posted by Omega VisionTo sum up my argument: the IG gave Thanos power equal or greater to Eternity:
The IG has never and will most likely never even hang with a being with the power of 52 universes let alone defeat such a being.
yeah, eternity's case was centered around adam warlock not being a natural life form without any emotion (warlock purged himself of good and evil).
the LT couldn't give two shits either way, he just started to make a stance when warlock lashed out in the "courtroom" ironically proving some of eternity's points.
As I said before... There were some tangents that weren't needed in this thread, but all in all, I thought there was some good debating. Also, In Re: Quan... It would be quite the boring place if everybody agreed all the time. Some might not like his debating tactics but he does make for some good discussions and passing of time. One thing Quan is, is he's consistent.. and well, Thanos of course.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiWhen in the hell did he ever show any inkling of being able to do this?
Speculation? I call it a very reasonable assumption. You see, you just said well its speculation he could keep control of other universes while conquering others.. Really why is that even remotely difficult to believe? Are you forgetting that ANYBODY below the LT was utterly useless against the IG. Are you forgetting that Thanos with the IG could replace Eternity in every universe he saw fit.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiYou're god damn straight. The lack of proof ISN'T proof. But that's exactly what you're using to countervail on-panel proof. You're suggesting because I lack definitive proof to completely dispel that Thanos couldn't destroy/recreate/manipulate the entire Marvel Multiverse in a blink, that it somehow defeats an on-panel comparison of feats. That's called a negative proof fallacy. I could just throw around that the UN could destroy the Marvel Multiverse and the DC Multiverse and the LT and all of comics if I wanted. It never tried to after all. you see how stupid this sounds when applied?
Again with more fallacies… Lack of proof ISN'T proof. You keep trying to paint a picture of Thanos TRYING to do what the UN did and failing. Yet we all know this to be false. Thanos NEVER tried to do anything every close to the ONE feat the UN has that is better than the IG. You keep using the analogy and even say.. "To suggest that one guy has proven he can lift more than the other when he lifts 1,000,000 tons and the other guy lifts 100 tons is not horrible logic." So, if Spiderman lifts and throws a car, yet Thanos never has.. He's proven he's stronger? How many strength feats does Thor, Hulk, Thing, Herc have that Thanos doesn't, That Galactus doesn't, or insert many people stronger.. Yet under your fallacy that makes them stronger. Nope. As I said I have proven that fallacy and logic to be unsound and illogical.
Also Thanos has smashed Hulk's and Thing's head together. He's got strength feats over Spiderman easily if you weren't looking at this with tunnel-vision. Infinity Gauntlet doesn't have a single power feat that tops what the UN did. Nothing even close. Comparative proof isn't a fallacy, it's deductive logic.
Destroying/recreating the entire Marvel Multiverse instantly >>>>>>> taking over a single universe. That's plain common sense.
Originally posted by Mr MasterYes, he is. By the very definition of 616 Eternity representing the 616 universe.616 Eternity is Universal huh ...
That Eternity that showed up in Defenders may or may not have been multiversal. What we do know, is that the 616 Eternity that showed up in Infinity gauntlet and Infinity war was universal.
@ mr master
maybe back in secret wars and/or infinity sagas the ig was multiversal... It's my opinion it isn't like it's yours it is....
But the reeds in the recent ff issues clearly show that each ig is limited to their own universe... There is nothing to show that the 616 is any different...
With beyonder now being an inhuman mutant...
The ig in 616 working together when it was thought for the longes time that it didn't
god knows what other retcons are out there
but as it stands currently... The reeds if the multiverse show us that the ig as it is currently is limited to it's own universe... A council of reeds...
Or do you have something more recent to challenege the reeds other than your own belief Or issues prior to the current revelations to show that 616 ig is multiversal.
:-P
k my take: feats ARE very important when compare 2 things, BUT theres somethin even MORE important then feats: its 1-on-1 fights (if there is such fight) like when the 2 things are pit once against the other
so heres wut:
UN got more feats then IG
but then: has there ever been IG vs UN "fight"? if so how many times, and wich of the 2 won? 😄
