Infinity Gauntlet Vs. Cosmic Armor

Originally posted by Omega Vision
<Skipped Kindergarten 😛
The UN has done something that completely puts the IG to shame: multiversal reconstruction. The IG would win a fight but its not more powerful. The way I see it the UN is like a chunk of C-4 while the IG is a gun. In almost every scenario the guy with the gun wins the fight but the C-4 is more powerful.

The ig is more powerful and can draw power from anything. You're a typical feat arguer while I don't base my arguments off of that because it's horrible logic.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Your logic is flawed though. I gave you another example but you'll still praise one feat another item never attempted.

The ig is more powerful and can draw power from anything. You're a typical feat arguer while I don't base my arguments off of that because it's horrible logic.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
The IG could never recreate the multiverse, it only has power in its home reality.

You just explained why it couldn't do this though...

Originally posted by Omega Vision
The IG could never recreate the multiverse, it only has power in its home reality.

Originally posted by Blanket
How does that make it less powerful then?

You just explained why it couldn't do this though...

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Less powerful in terms of what? A fight or in terms of how much damage it can do or in terms of scope?
As for the first one the UN's lack of real defenses against the IG means that 9/10 the IG wins but in the second and third cases the UN is the more potent artifact because of its ability to destroy, alter, and recreate reality on a multiversal scale compared to the IG's universal power.

It's the same as the HOTU scenario and what a lot of people think; the HOTU might have only been universal, but it's still way more powerful than multiversal LT.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Less powerful in terms of what? A fight or in terms of how much damage it can do or in terms of scope?
As for the first one the UN's lack of real defenses against the IG means that 9/10 the IG wins but in the second and third cases the UN is the more potent artifact because of its ability to destroy, alter, and recreate reality on a multiversal scale compared to the IG's universal power.

First of all, many examples have been given to show that it's multiversal and at the very least Multi-Universal. So, I'm unclear why you keep calling it only universal.

Next, the UN is superior in much less areas than the IG. This is way the scope of the IG superior while the UN has one feat which seems to make its scale superior. So really, being that the scope of the IG is superior being that it can do many more things and has control of many more things its superior. The UN having ONE greater feat in ONE area of superiority doesn't make it superior. I have examples of how this is flawed logic...
Reed did an exponentially greater mind feat than Doom ever has in his entire history. So.. does that mean Reed has a clear cut better mind than Doom.... Not in my opinion as Doom as handled himself very well against Reed i their encounters. Wolverine has many more strength feats than Sabertooth.. Seems like he's superior in strength eh? Yet when they fight Sabertooth appears to be the stronger combatant. Thor is more versatile than Superman... Yet he's superior and has more feats in ONE area.. does that make him superior? No.. Superman has other areas that make it a good fight. Thor, Supes, Hulk have exponetially greater lifting feats than Thanos.. yet do we call them superior or call them stronger? No we don't. Strength is only one area of an all encompassing picture of superiority. Whats worse in one v one encouters Thanos seems to be stronger yet they have the featz!! Point is one feat in one area doesn't make something superior.. Especially when you get WTFpwned with but a thought. Done deal.

Originally posted by Blanket
Less powerful in terms of if they put something 'unbreakable' in front of them, the IG would be the one to break it.
While it may not have the ability to attack all the universes or whatnot, it still has more raw power.

It's the same as the HOTU scenario and what a lot of people think; the HOTU might have only been universal, but it's still way more powerful than multiversal LT.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
The HOTU was certainly multiversal, it was the TOAA's power. The writer just did a bad job of communicating that by making it a seemingly universal affair.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
The HOTU was certainly multiversal, it was the TOAA's power. The writer just did a bad job of communicating that by making it a seemingly universal affair.

After you address my post above yours... then couldn't the same be said about the IG and its story? What is even funnier is the writer did a MUCH better job of making it multiversal than the HOTI story. We same at the very least multi-universal feats.. we saw a pwning of a multiversal Abstract in one move... we saw the writer say.. God of UniverseS.. Seem like the writer did a much better job of making it multiversal, yet you don't use the same premise there.. interesting.

Originally posted by Blanket
Less powerful in terms of if they put something 'unbreakable' in front of them, the IG would be the one to break it.
While it may not have the ability to attack all the universes or whatnot, it still has more raw power.

It's the same as the HOTU scenario and what a lot of people think; the HOTU might have only been universal, but it's still way more powerful than multiversal LT.

Originally posted by Blanket

And the IG was based on the previous Supreme Being's power...

I don't know where my heads at,
I've been ignoring this fact this entire time.

That's correct, the IG is the Infinity Being's power,
the same Infinity Being that originally created the Marvelverse. (Omniverse)

Therefore,
one can surmise,
that the IG's power is what created Eternity/Infinity/Death/Oblivion and everything in-between,
including the freakin UN. swank

Universal my ass .. you want 'multiversal blah, blah' feats,
how about creating all of Marvel.

** {thread} **

Question:

If that's true, then this means the IG's power created the LT as well,
so then,
why is LT more powerful than the IG?

Good question ... and the answer is simple:

The LT clearly stated on panel:

"I represent forces that dwarf even you might"

"I represent" ... (as in, he isn't the "Force" himself)

Logic tells me by the LT's self explanatory claim,
that it is in fact TOAA who is above the IG,
and the LT,
while representing this force, by extension puts him above as well.

So basically,
the LT was/is above the IG because he was empowered by TOAA to be so,
just like the LT was below THOTI because it was empowered by TOAA to be so.

Wow, no wonder Warlock stated that TOAA is the one that is above "GOD" (IG)

Instead of the LT.

The LT is again described as the representative of TOAA,
which again by extension puts him above the IG as well.

I'll b peaking back to the thanos quest later tonight... But I thought the ig comes from the previous universe... Ie the one galactus came from.

Since the death of that universe brought around our 616 universe

and not a multiverse etc... I'll diublecheck what tq says later. :-)

Originally posted by rotiart

I'll b peaking back to the thanos quest later tonight... But I thought the ig comes from the previous universe... Ie the one galactus came from.

Since the death of that universe brought around our 616 universe

and not a multiverse etc... I'll diublecheck what tq says later. :-)

The IB imbued the Gems with its power & consciousness
in order to become part of the new reality it was creating. (the current Marvelverse)

This is because the Infinity Being was the only sentience in the previous reality
it was everything and had no peers.
This made its existence boring basically, so it created a reality (current Omniverse)
that it was apart from, yet still could exist within it.

That's it.

This canon truth has been defined on panel across separate arcs,
even in the Multiverse that houses the Ultraverse it is known.

I have all the scans if need be. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
The IG came from the Infinity Being.

The IB imbued the Gems with its power & consciousness
in order to become part of the new reality it was creating. (the current Marvelverse)

This is because the Infinity Being was the only sentience in the previous reality
it was everything and had no peers.
This made its existence boring basically, so it created a reality (current Omniverse)
that it was apart from, yet still could exist within it.

That's it.

This canon truth has been defined on panel across separate arcs,
even in the Multiverse that houses the Ultraverse it is known.

I have all the scans if need be. 🙂

Originally posted by Omega Vision
So basically the Infinity Being was like the Primal Monitor in that the omniverse grew inside of it?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Do you now admit the ig is more powerful than the un?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
My position remains unchanged on that matter. The IG can win most battles and is more powerful within its own universe but if you have bigger ambitions than just being God of one universe the UN is the better artifact.

R u sure nemesis is considered canon? He isn't mentioned in lts bio. Or did I miss it when I was reading

Originally posted by Omega Vision
So basically the Infinity Being was like the Primal Monitor in that the omniverse grew inside of it?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
My position remains unchanged on that matter. The IG can win most battles and is more powerful within its own universe but if you have bigger ambitions than just being God of one universe the UN is the better artifact.

UN: multiversal
IG: omniversal 😈