Infinity Gauntlet Vs. Cosmic Armor

Started by Mr Master91 pages

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

Having immunity to the Mind Gem backed by the other Gems is pretty much defying/resisting the IG. Any feat of the IG relies on a single Gem and/or combination of Gems. You make it sound like Loki divorced the Mind Gem utterly from the rest of the Gems. Another projection. And what's your explanation for Loki's apparent acceptance that Grandmaster could resist pain and beat death in the face of the assembled IG?


This is still yet another lie.

Loki didn't even have the other Gems at this point.

I mean, in your own scan GM tells Loki
that if he wants the location of the other Gems he'll have to play by his rules. (the game)

Please, stop claiming that GM resisted a Mind Gem backed by the IG,
that's 100% bull shit
and stop claiming that GM resisted pain from an assembled IG,
which is also 100% bull shit

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

I never disagreed that Thanos would have detected Warlock, considering they both lie outside the bounds of Chaos and Order and have an intimate relationship.


Nah, you just tried to use Warlock going un-detected by the IG in Nebula's hands
as some sort of false limitation on the IG's part,
again, just another lie.

Warlock was un-detected by Nebula because like I repeated times before,
she was mentally unfit to fully harness the IG's abilities.

Warlock clearly made a distinction between the IG in Thanos' hand,
and the IG in Nebula's hand.

Warlock literally stated that Thanos would've detected him.

So again, please stop with the lies.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

Eternity wasn't there? Hmph. I'll have to reread it.


Re-read all you want, Eternity was not there.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0

And enough with the asperions, alright?

If I misinterpret something, whatever.


Whatever is right.

I had much respect for you before this thread opened up,
I even considered you amongst the best debaters here,
but you've flipped the script and turned into an intransigent troll.
The thing that separates you from the others of that kind is that you right beautifully,
but why you find the need to insult other posters including myself is mysterious.

If you're right you're right, if you're wrong then the same,
but you obviously have the discussion skills to make a significant point without belittling the opposition with vicious yet sophisticated vernacular.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

But all the crap you misinterpreted and I had to correct hasn't led me to b1tch you out as some sort of "malignant deceiver." Give it a rest.

(I'm being hardcore cause you're not owning up and admitting you were wrong,
instead you insult other posters calling them "parrots" and "sock"
but when you're incorrect,
you once again try and talk your way out of the truth,
that is, you were wrong)

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

And yet, the fact remains, there is absolutely NOTHING literally stated that he was "vulnerable in that instant[/u]" or depowered because of him arguing with the Gems. So is this where I call you liar now? Arguing with the Gems =/= depowered.That first blast may have been the merest fraction, but if you're conflating that with "the Gems only lent him the merest fraction of their might," that is SERIOUS reaching and frankly, an utter mischaracterization.


If you honestly believe that Surfer accomplished that without the obvious stipulation,
which is, Rune was struggling for control of the IG with the Gems themselves,
then you're really hard up on winning this debate regardless of how silly you may look.

If Surfer was going to be
a victim of a single freakin Gem (Time) in that story had it not been for the LT,
then by God it doesn't take a genius to figure
that obviously Surfer needed a plot device to blow that glove off of Rune's hand,
whether the LT empowered him off-panel
or the Rune was vulnerable during his struggle with the Gems,
it is clear that there was a stipulation.
(I'll go with Rune's struggle which was depicted)

Just showing yet another instance where the IG really ain't up to snuff. To suggest it could suddenly match a feat that is exponentially far greater than anything it has so far achieved is ludicrous.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

The rest of your 616 Eternity = Multi-Eternity is the same old conflated garbage that again fails to realize that the Eternity throughout the Infinity Sagas was in fact 616 Eternity of the 616 universe.


Right, which is still the SAME 616 Eternity that contains WHOLE UniverseS in one hand,
and who annihilates and re-creates ENTIRE UniverseS all day every day,
and infact, can re-birth ALL UniverseS if he so wishes.

And for the last time, there is no "Multi" Eternity.

That term was what Captain Universe nicknamed Eternity's totality,
which is simply 616 Eternity, as in "THE Universe" (Marvel Universe)

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

Otherwise, according to your inane cosmology,
616 Galactus performed a multiversal surgery. Please.


"insane?" ... Your moms what?

Oh wait, back on topic ...

No, Galactus simply freed the M-Bodys of 616 Eternity/Infinity from their bonds.

Galactus doesn't have to affect the entire Multiverse to affect the Conceptual representation of the prime reality which contains the power of the prime Multiverse.

You continue to mis-understand me.

I've never said 616 Eternity is the Multiverse,
I've said again and again that 616 Eternity contains the power of all Etenitys.

wut gems did Loki have in dat scene with GM?

Originally posted by Mr Master
What can I say, he was obliterated into nothingness,
then brought back by Oblivion into reality to serve Oblivion's plan.

Otherwise it makes no sense that some punk
who gets owned by an Infinity empowered Quasar is invulnerable to the IG.

(yea, yea the 'I'm a greater anomaly than you' stipulation)

And let's not forget that Maelstrom did in fact state
that Thanos was more powerful than he in the prior page when he's flying towards Thanos.

The IG didn't obliterate him, and send him into Oblivion though. I fail to see the relevance in what you say?

The anomaly thing is the only reason Quasar won that fight. It says as much on panel.

Also, there's an issue in Quasar where Quasar is travelling through alternate realties, and in one of them it shows Maelstrom and Thanos with the IG locked in a virtual stalemate.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi

5. The IG comes from the IB.. who as we know gave ALL his power into the gems. Not just some but all. Now we all the IB was creater of the omniverse. So thus how on earth could the IG just be universal? Granted it may take some time to full harness the powers of the iG and get used to them. Clearly, nobody has been afforded such time to do so and thus limitations in not being fully acclimated exist. Yet that doesn't take away from the inherent power they posses.


👆

(This took place withIN the Multiverse that houses the 616 Reality)

This truth was even stated in another entirely separate Multiverse:

(This took place withIN the Multiverse that houses the Ultraverse Reality)

** Enough with this IG is but a Universal drivel **

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

wut gems did Loki have in dat scene with GM?


The Mind Gem.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33

The IG didn't obliterate him, and send him into Oblivion though.
I fail to see the relevance in what you say?


How does anyone know exactly what happened there.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33

The anomaly thing is the only reason Quasar won that fight.
It says as much on panel.


Yea, he was stalemating the Ig and he can't even take out 616 without some stipulation?

Nah. (actually he never stalemated the IG)

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33

Also, there's an issue in Quasar where Quasar is travelling through alternate realties, and in one of them it shows Maelstrom and Thanos with the IG locked in a virtual stalemate.


I have that issue,
Thanos doesn't have any IG on his hand.

You have the scan showing Maelstrom was completely unaffected by the IG. Then you have his Handbook bio stating that as Anomaly, he was immune to the IG.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/maelstrom.htm

Sorry buddy, I normally agree with you, but you're wrong here. Maelstrom was immune to the IG as Anomaly. There are no other ways to interpret it.

Originally posted by Mr Master
The Mind Gem.
thats it? he dint have any other gems? 🤨 (power, soul...)

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
You have the scan showing Maelstrom was completely unaffected by the IG. Then you have his Handbook bio stating that as Anomaly, he was immune to the IG.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/maelstrom.htm

thats marvelunap not official

they been wrong b4 (like when they say the fury escape 238 before it was destroyed when actualy it can & did survive in non-space )

Also, about the alternate reality Thanos and Maelstrom fight, no, you can't actually see the glove on his handin the book, but you can see he has it on on the cover.

Answer me this, how the hell else would he be able to grow to "millions of miles tall" according to Quasar? Quasar also says :"I know what kind of omnipotent power Maelstrom had going for him, but what did Thanos do to become his equal?"

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
thats marvelunap not official

they been wrong b4 (like when they say the fury escape 238 before it was destroyed when actualy it can & did survive in non-space )

Marvunapp is the same as the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe, hence the name. Besides, it's just confirming what we saw in the comic book.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Marvunapp is the same as the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe, hence the name. Besides, it's just confirming what we saw in the comic book.
so th Fury cant survive in non-space?

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/fury1.htm"he had
"the entire universe of the Crooked World destroyed. However, the Fury narrowly managed to escape to Earth-616, although it was nearly destroyed escaping from the dying universe, losing all four limbs in the process."

Besides, it's just confirming what we saw in the comic book.
on panel Eternity also survive a blast from IG, yet on another panel he get erased by same IG (along with other abstracts)...how come? 😈

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
so th Fury cant survive in non-space?

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/fury1.htm

Uhhh it nearly died fighting MJJ. Unspace had nothing to do with it.

(i edited)

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Uhhh it nearly died fighting MJJ. Unspace had nothing to do with it.
um read the link 😕 it says they erase 238 and that Fury escape before 238 was erased

got nothing to do with fight with MJJ

Dude, he still survived. What, did you think he casually shrugs off a universe exploding around him?

And "narrowly" escaping means he got out before he was destroyed.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Dude, he still survived. What, did you think he casually shrugs off a universe exploding around him?

And "narrowly" escaping means he got out before he was destroyed.

and yet on panel shows it float intact IN non-space 😐
wich means 1) it dint "narowly escape" and 2) yeah it shrug it of, its onpanel

teleportin to 616 is wut damaged it

btw it wasnt explosion, 238 just got...erased...u know, like 1 second its there the next it aint there

Read it again, the panel shows an explosion.

What exactly is your gripe? The bio doesn't say he didn't survive non-space, it says he narrowly escaped. Again, just confirming what was seen in the book.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Read it again, the panel shows an explosion.

What exactly is your gripe? The bio doesn't say he didn't survive non-space, it says he narrowly escaped. Again, just confirming what was seen in the book.

LOL

theres no explosion
beside they call it the celestial nulifier not the celestial bomb or w/e

bio says it escape, wich imply that it CANT survive in non-space (else why "escape" from somethin that aint no threat?)

on panel shows it dint escape (they say somethin like "it floats in space that aint space" so it was still there AFTER 238 is gone)

=> marvunap was wrong

Good gravy, it says it narrowly escaped. Doesn't say it would die in unspace. If you ead the book, they describe exactly what happened. It took damage, but survived.

Earth-238 goes BOOM!:

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Good gravy, it says it narrowly escaped. Doesn't say it would die in unspace.
then why escape from somethin from wich it dont need to escape? 😕
If you ead the book, they describe exactly what happened. It took damage, but survived.
😐 it took damage AFTER it leave 238 & teleport to 616. got the scan where it floatin? if so u see its completly intact
Earth-238 goes BOOM!:

o rly?

it only show whole universe go white no sound no boom no nothin
kinda like the blast of the UN (like when Quasar use it on Magus) they also show a white ball

which btw makes sense cuz, u know, its suppose to be a NULIFIER 🙄

if it was just boom like a big bomb then there woud still be space & time & debris & all that

You expect there to be sound where none exsists?

I still do get WTF your gripe is. The bio you're complaining about describes exactly what happened in the book.