Infinity Gauntlet Vs. Cosmic Armor

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
You expect there to be sound where none exsists?

especialy if a whole UNIVERSE is suppose to be explodin lol. kinda calls for a big bang dont it?

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I still do get WTF your gripe is. The bio you're complaining about describes exactly what happened in the book.

btw whose site is it anyway? marvunapp.com aint marvel.com

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I don't agree at all.

Frankly, what Eternity said in that sentence about it being "a visualization of his totality" has so many double negatives that his statement is nearly incomprehensible. And considering that underlined statement, [b]why do you think the IG's more powerful/superior to Maelstrom specifically? Because in isolation, it has far greater feats?

Answer the above bolded question.

Sending reverberations into the multiverse is not a vast uber zomg multiversal feat. Double Mjolnir impact can apparently do that. We also know the scope of the Celestials' power apart from curbstomping Odin. Don't use negative proof fallacies. [/B]

So, you disagree with eternity? The point is had Eternity wanted to do battle with Warlock he had better do more than just blast him because it takes more to beat Eternity. Blasting is not the best the ig can do. That's always been my point.

Because of Maelstrom's place in that specific story at that point. he was far less than Thanos, was killed by far less, was far less than an abstract such as Oblivion. His plans were to later usurp Oblivion, but to assume he is more powerful than the ig when he's not even Oblivion level is just plain foolish.

As an anomaly he was afforded an immunity so to speak against the ig, but we saw him later killed by a black hole. The ig could wrap reality in a number of ways which could kill him. To even suggest Maelstrom was in any way equal to the ig in terms of power when they met up in the issue of Quasar is ridiculous. Do you feel they were equals?

I never said it was. I said it was more impressive than anything the Celestials have done on panel to my knowledge. So by your own logic and whatever your opinion is of it it's a moot point. What combat feats do the Celestials have which are more impressive than Odin's best?

We know the Celestials are more powerful just as we know the ig is more powerful. Scope has nothing to do with it. Nothing.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
um your sayin it goes boom. that means there outa be sound WHILE its explodin & while theres still universe & space & time

especialy if a whole UNIVERSE is suppose to be explodin lol. kinda calls for a big bang dont it?

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Originally posted by SoulDevourer

then why escape from somethin from wich it dont need to escape?

it took damage AFTER it leave 238 & teleport to 616.

got the scan where it floatin? if so u see its completly intact.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33

I still do get WTF your gripe is.

The bio you're complaining about describes exactly what happened in the book.

Marvunnap is full of shit on that one.

The Fury escaped unharmed/unscathed from that Temporal/Spacial nullification.

Two actual Handbooks confirmed this truth,
and the on panel evidence agrees.

Originally posted by quanchi112

So, you disagree with eternity? The point is had Eternity wanted to do battle with Warlock he had better do more than just blast him because it takes more to beat Eternity. Blasting is not the best the ig can do. That's always been my point.

Because of Maelstrom's place in that specific story at that point. he was far less than Thanos, was killed by far less, was far less than an abstract such as Oblivion. His plans were to later usurp Oblivion, but to assume he is more powerful than the ig when he's not even Oblivion level is just plain foolish.

As an anomaly he was afforded an immunity so to speak against the ig, but we saw him later killed by a black hole. The ig could wrap reality in a number of ways which could kill him. To even suggest Maelstrom was in any way equal to the ig in terms of power when they met up in the issue of Quasar is ridiculous. Do you feel they were equals?

Originally posted by Mr Master
This is still yet another lie. Loki didn't even have the other Gems at this point.

I mean, in your own scan GM tells Loki that if he wants the location of the other Gems he'll have to play by his rules. (the game)

Please, stop claiming that GM resisted a Mind Gem backed by the IG,
that's 100% bull and stop claiming that GM resisted pain from an assembled IG, which is also 100% bull

" -- but now that I possess all the Infinity Gems, I should be aspiring to loftier ideals --"

Know what the hell you're talking about first.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Nah, you just tried to use Warlock going un-detected by the IG in Nebula's hands as some sort of false limitation on the IG's part, again, just another lie.

Warlock was un-detected by Nebula because like I repeated times before, she was mentally unfit to fully harness the IG's abilities.

Warlock clearly made a distinction between the IG in Thanos' hand, and the IG in Nebula's hand.

[b]Warlock literally stated that Thanos would've detected him.

So again, please stop with the lies.[/b]

And upon granting it shows that IG doesn't necessarily make you god of your universe and a limitation on the user shouldn't be held against the artifact's power. Which you haven't noticed but, that is exactly the point I've been making against other posters. Every time I point to one of these supposed limitations, it either is (i) a limitation (which blunts any speculation that it could achieve exponentially more than it ever did), or (ii) reinforces that a user which doesn't fully utilize his artifact can not be held against the artifact's power (which negates any use of Quasar w/ UN being owned). Had a higher expectation that you and the others would have realized the catch-22 I caught you all in by now.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Re-read all you want, Eternity was not there.

Whatever is right.

And moving on:

Originally posted by Mr Master
I had much respect for you before this thread opened up, I even considered you amongst the best debaters here, but you've flipped the script and turned into an intransigent troll. The thing that separates you from the others of that kind is that you right beautifully, but why you find the need to insult other posters including myself is mysterious.

If you're right you're right, if you're wrong then the same, but you obviously have the discussion skills to make a significant point without belittling the opposition with vicious yet sophisticated vernacular.

(I'm being hardcore cause you're not owning up and admitting you were wrong, instead you insult other posters calling them "parrots" and "sock" but when you're incorrect, you once again try and talk your way out of the truth, that is, you were wrong)

And you obviously have the wherewithal to realize that even accepting your criticisms, you've been guilty of misstating facts (to be generous) and haven't owned up to a single one. Instead, you've deflected onto other points and hoped that every time you get proven wrong, they get buried in your spam. When you're being hypocritical in your criticism, you've got only two things, buddy: Jack and shit. And Jack just left town.

I'm not going to call you a liar. Just an idiot for not reading the comic and then calling me a liar. Want a more polite term, Mr Master of Etiquette? Go look one up in the thesaurus.

Originally posted by Mr Master
If you honestly believe that Surfer accomplished that without the obvious stipulation, which is, Rune was struggling for control of the IG with the Gems themselves, then you're really hard up on winning this debate regardless of how silly you may look.

If Surfer was going to be a victim of a single freakin Gem (Time) in that story had it not been for the LT, then by God it doesn't take a genius to figure that obviously Surfer needed a plot device to blow that glove off of Rune's hand, whether the LT empowered him off-panel or the Rune was vulnerable during his struggle with the Gems, it is clear that there was a stipulation. (I'll go with Rune's struggle which was depicted)

LT did not "empower" Surfer off-panel to resist the IG's power. He only plucked him from the timestream. Any suggestion otherwise is speculative nonsense. Rune was not depowered by the Gems. And nowhere is that stated. Quite distinguishable from what you said earlier about "it was literally stated on panel that this made him vulnerable in that instant when Surfer blew the IG off his hand." Now that it's been exposed you were quite literally wrong, let's see a demonstration of the proper form of owning up to it. The floor is yours.

Originally posted by Mr Master
"insane?" ... Your moms what?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Oh wait, back on topic ...

No, Galactus simply freed the M-Bodys of 616 Eternity/Infinity from their bonds.

Galactus doesn't have to affect the entire Multiverse to affect the Conceptual representation of the prime reality which contains the power of the prime Multiverse.

You continue to mis-understand me.

I've never said 616 Eternity is the Multiverse, I've said again and again that 616 Eternity contains the power of all Etenitys.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I know you don't agree at all. I have given you an example though of your same theory used against you with different characters. You reject it there and only apply this logic to this specific example.

So, you disagree with eternity? The point is had Eternity wanted to do battle with Warlock he had better do more than just blast him because it takes more to beat Eternity. Blasting is not the best the ig can do. That's always been my point.

And the point is superfluous as Thanos w/IG failed to utterly faze Maelstrom.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because of Maelstrom's place in that specific story at that point. he was far less than Thanos, was killed by far less, was far less than an abstract such as Oblivion. His plans were to later usurp Oblivion, but to assume he is more powerful than the ig when he's not even Oblivion level is just plain foolish.

As an anomaly he was afforded an immunity so to speak against the ig, but we saw him later killed by a black hole. The ig could wrap reality in a number of ways which could kill him. To even suggest Maelstrom was in any way equal to the ig in terms of power when they met up in the issue of Quasar is ridiculous. Do you feel they were equals?

Black hole created by Maelstrom. And we all know why we're discussing Maelstrom. Answer the above bolded question.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said it was. I said it was more impressive than anything the Celestials have done on panel to my knowledge. So by your own logic and whatever your opinion is of it it's a moot point. What combat feats do the Celestials have which are more impressive than Odin's best?

We know the Celestials are more powerful just as we know the ig is more powerful. Scope has nothing to do with it. Nothing.

Oxymoronic statement bereft of meaning.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

Let's get something straight here first. If you're going to cast aspersions about me lying about certain facts, know what the hell you're talking about first[/u]. Loki did have all six Infinity Gems in that scene. He already collected them before Ultraforce/Avengers #0, and this is issue #1. But instead of recounting all the events that happened until that point, we could just look at the preceding page:but now that I possess all the Infinity Gems, I should be aspiring to loftier ideals"Know what the hell you're talking about first.

In any case the Nebula case still rides, and the obvious Rune case as well.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

Your opinion, which is reasonable.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

And upon granting it shows that IG doesn't necessarily make you god of your universe and a limitation on the user shouldn't be held against the artifact's power. Which you haven't noticed but, that is exactly the point I've been making against other posters. Every time I point to one of these supposed limitations, it either is a limitation (which blunts any speculation that it could achieve exponentially more than it ever did), or [reinforces that a user which doesn't fully utilize his artifact can not be held against the artifact's power (which negates any use of Quasar w/ UN being owned). Had a higher expectation that you and the others would have realized the catch-22 I caught you all in by now. Upon re-reading it, true.

Therefore the "incomplete" IG mind you, controlled those energies.
This shows an complete IG in the hands of Thanos would always be the ultimate weapon of the two.

So in this particular discussion concerning the UN specifically, it matter not who fired the UN,
the fact that it was Quasar is not too bad, no one's given credit,
but the bottom line is that the UN nullification is the power of the UN,
and that's what an incomplete IG pwnd.

The UN energies are always the same.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

And moving on: First, your "respect" is the last thing I care about here. Second, try reading the comics we're arguing about before going b1tch-psycho on me. Third, get off your soapbox, as posting etiquette is the last thing you should be lecturing others on.

And you obviously have the wherewithal to realize that even accepting your criticisms, you've been guilty of misstating facts (to be generous) and haven't owned up to a single one. Instead, you've deflected onto other points and hoped that every time you get proven wrong, they get buried in your spam. When you're being hypocritical in your criticism, you've got only two things, buddy: Jack and. And Jack just left to
I'm not going to call you a liar. Just an idiot for not reading the comic and then calling me a liar. Want a more polite term, Mr Master of Etiquette? Go look one up in the thesaurus. Long way of saying, "Nuh uh."

Back on topic
... You still have the Nebula thing & Rune thing hanging.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

LT did not "empower" Surfer off-panel to resist the IG's power. He only plucked him from the timestream. Any suggestion otherwise is speculative nonsense. Rune was not depowered by the Gems. And nowhere is that stated. Quite distinguishable from what you said earlier about "it was literally stated on panel that this made him vulnerable in that instant when Surfer blew the IG off his hand." Now that it's been exposed you were quite literally wrong, let's see a demonstration of the proper form of owning up to it. The floor is yours."Inane." Look it up in the dictionary, kid.Gibberish. 616 Galactus didn't perform a prime multiversal surgery either. He performed a universal one on the single 616 universe. Equivocation and wholly artificial distinctions between what the 616 universe is as opposed to the Marvel Multiverse gets you nowhere.

Silver Surfer cannot defeat an IG wielder that can properly harness the IG.

Simple.
So Surfer defeating Rune in any way assures us Rune wasn't fully harnessing that IG.
We know because Surfer was nothing to Thanos when he wore the IG.

^ Quiet, sock.

You hold "owning up and admitting to your mistakes" on a pedestal, learn to do it before preaching it. Until then, you've been served. You'd be well served to re-read these comics before responding to me.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Quiet, sock.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

You hold "owning up and admitting to your mistakes" on a pedestal, learn to do it before preaching it. Until then, you've been served. You'd be well served to re-read these comics before responding to me.

Originally posted by Mr Master
She did what? .. That's a nasty wild child who could believe she's yah mummy.
So they we are at troll in-effect, nice, we play.

... You still licking your self, it's hilarious.

He's like a cat.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

I'd pretend to be insulted if any of this made sense.

Originally posted by Mr Master
All I see a troll attempting humor, stick to licking your own nargas.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi

1. Thanos was only concerned with taking over and becoming GOD of the 616 Universe. He wasn't occupied with trying any and all feats it could try. Just because Thanos has never been shown lifting up a airplane do we presume he can't just because he was only concerned about lifting a car in the arc?

5. The IG comes from the IB.. who as we know gave ALL his power into the gems. Not just some but all. Now we all the IB was creater of the omniverse. So thus how on earth could the IG just be universal? Granted it may take some time to full harness the powers of the iG and get used to them. Clearly, nobody has been afforded such time to do so and thus limitations in not being fully acclimated exist. Yet that doesn't take away from the inherent power they posses.

^ No surprise you support a negative proof fallacy and a no-limits fallacy respectively.

Re-read the comics yet?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

You're clearly lying about nargas. I don't know what they are and I won't try to educate myself on this topic, but I shall accuse you of lying anyway.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ No surprise you support a negative proof fallacy and a no-limits fallacy respectively.

Re-read the comics yet?

Originally posted by Mr Master
You can accuse me of whatever, your word is as meaningless as your life to me.
Your a complete liar, simple, you tell some truths like all liars, it a perfect ploy.

This ain't Bizarro-world, son.