Infinity Gauntlet Vs. Cosmic Armor · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's clear that's what I meant. But with an argument like yours I would try to distance myself from the actual debate myself as well.
It's the same logic. You are trying to only focus on one feat and dismiss the logic you are applying to the feat.

We both know what happened. Deflecting from that with you constant "last word" tactics doesn't change that you literally talked out of your a$$, were proven wrong, tried to cover it up, then got that revealed. I mean... that takes talent... sticking your foot in your own mouth twice-over on the same exact non-issue.

It's not the same logic. Power extending into the multiverse =/= instantly nullifying/recreating/manipulating multiverse. Not even you could believe an asinine proposition like that. Trying to conflate the two without ever justifying the conflation is equivocating for the sake of equivocation. And all it remains is simply that: equivocation.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Keep dodging. I like it when you run and flee when faced with questions which further destroy your silly little argument.
Ok, and it affecting the multiverse which has never been outrightly stated after the fact doesn't prove it's more powerful than the ig.
I want to hear your opinion on the question I asked not my own.

Lulz. Can't even bring yourself to put words into my mouth. By all means, answer the question.

Ok, and it being "stated after the fact" that it affected the multiverse doesn't change that it indeed affected the multiverse on-panel. And once again, "affecting" the multiverse =/= instantly nullifying/recreating/manipulating the multiverse.

You feel comfortable enough to straw-man me, you can answer it yourself. Once you do, you'll realize how you defeated your own argument. I invite you to pick an answer for me and proceed to explain (or try to explain) how my arguments are in the least bit affected. By all means: Assume the answer and proceed. I guess since you couldn't see where the whole "Maelstrom v IG Thanos" thing was going, it's hard for you to see how "Reed's gun v LT" blunts your arguments. So, let's go through the exercise, if we have to. By all means: Assume the answer and proceed.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ The answer lies in this question: "Was Reed's cosmic gun that pwned Eternity/LT/other Abstracts universal in power or multiversal?"

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

SoulDevourer: It is canon. To the LT anyway.
Who is the same across the Marvel Multiverse.
He's the exception to the alternate universe rule, remember.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
it's hard for you to see how "Reed's gun v LT" blunts your arguments.

That issue is non-canon.

It was not referrenced in the LT's bio, or any other abstract's.
It was not referrence in Reed's bio or the general FF bio either.
It's not referrence in Galactus's bio.
It's not even referrenced in the MC2 Alternate Universe bio. 😬
(while every other story that took place in it ... is)

LT has "What If" stories referrened in his bios,
if the 'Last Galactus Story' had been canon, it would've been recognized somewhere.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I need not bother pointing out how utterly incorrect that observation is.

"Incorrect?" ... heh, cause you say so?

The UN erases from existence something from ever having been,
you should know that.

That said,
if you nullify Abraxas,
then all the Universes he collapse should return to their prior state.

Because well, it would mean he never collapsed them. (re-alignment)

Simple.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
We both know what happened. Deflecting from that with you constant "last word" tactics doesn't change that you literally talked out of your a$$, were proven wrong, tried to cover it up, then got that revealed. I mean... that takes talent... sticking your foot in your own mouth twice-over on the same exact non-issue.
It's not the same logic. Power extending into the multiverse =/= instantly nullifying/recreating/manipulating multiverse. Not even you could believe an asinine proposition like that. Trying to conflate the two without ever justifying the conflation is equivocating for the sake of equivocation. And all it remains is simply that: equivocation.Lulz. Can't even bring yourself to put words into my mouth. By all means, answer the question.
Ok, and it being "stated after the fact" that it affected the multiverse doesn't change that it indeed affected the multiverse on-panel. And once again, "affecting" the multiverse =/= instantly nullifying/recreating/manipulating the multiverse.
You feel comfortable enough to straw-man me, you can answer it yourself. Once you do, you'll realize how you defeated your own argument. I invite you to pick an answer for me and proceed to explain (or try to explain) how my arguments are in the least bit affected. By all means: Assume the answer and proceed. I guess since you couldn't see where the whole "Maelstrom v IG Thanos" thing was going, it's hard for you to see how "Reed's gun v LT" blunts your arguments. So, let's go through the exercise, if we have to. By all means: Assume the answer and proceed.

We both know your continuing rambling on in an attempt to push your desperation in this thread is noted, but I wasn't wrong at all. You know it, I know it, even yellowdog knows it.

Having power which only resides in one universe doesn't mean you are less powerful than someone whose power stretches and reaches into the multiverse. It's complete poop.

I asked you a question. You trying to spin the question around to me in another attempt to steer clear of the trap I set for you is yet another dodge.

Originally posted by Mr Master
That issue is non-canon.
It was not referrenced in the LT's bio, or any other abstract's.
It was not referrence in Reed's bio or the general FF bio either.
It's not referrence in Galactus's bio.
It's not even referrenced in the MC2 Alternate Universe bio. 😬
(while every other story that took place in it ... is)
LT has "What If" stories referrened in his bios,
if the 'Last Galactus Story' had been canon, it would've been recognized somewhere.

Doesn't sruprise me that odg would try to bring in an issue out of continuity to salvage his case.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Mr Master
"Incorrect?" ... heh, cause you say so?
The UN erases from existence something from ever having been,
you should know that.
That said,
if you nullify Abraxas,
then all the Universes he collapse should return to their prior state.
Because well, it would mean he never collapsed them. (re-alignment)
Simple.

= the only time i have seen you agree with the interpretations of GS on this subject.

Knowsbleed33 You know my name

You got to give Onedumb credit, he's fighting the good fight.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

^ He's got way more patience than me, that's for sure.

xJLxKing Senior Member

Originally posted by Galan007
^ He's got way more patience than me, that's for sure.

Amen to that. He has been disputing with a well known troll for over 30 pages.

galactusischere Apocalypse..begins!

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8282/fantasticfourv34618.jpg

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Amen to that. He has been disputing with a well known troll for over 30 pages.

His argmument has been dismantled.

Knowsbleed33 You know my name

Quanchi, I wonder, do you honestly believe everyone is wrong, and you are right? I'm not going to be flip, and say "Duh, of course he thinks that" and then call you a name. It's an honest question because no one ever agrees with you, everyone always thinks you're wrong, so I'm trying to figure out how someone can think they know what they're talking about when not one person agrees with them.

Seriously, do you think all these people are wrong, and only you are right?

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Quanchi, I wonder, do you honestly believe everyone is wrong, and you are right? I'm not going to be flip, and say "Duh, of course he thinks that" and then call you a name. It's an honest question because no one ever agrees with you, everyone always thinks you're wrong, so I'm trying to figure out how someone can think they know what they're talking about when not one person agrees with them.
Seriously, do you think all these people are wrong, and only you are right?

In this very thread people agree with me so I don't get the reason for this post. Most of the time online it turns into a popularity contest anyways and people will come in and throw an insult and be out.

Odg's veiws differ from my own as well as mr. master's, bran's, and kurupt thanosi's.

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by Mr Master
That issue is non-canon.
It was not referrenced in the LT's bio, or any other abstract's. It was not referrence in Reed's bio or the general FF bio either. It's not referrence in Galactus's bio. It's not even referrenced in the MC2 Alternate Universe bio. (while every other story that took place in it ... is)
LT has "What If" stories referrened in his bios, if the 'Last Galactus Story' had been canon, it would've been recognized somewhere.

Don't be ridiculous. Last Planet Standing, the follow-up to Last Hero Standing is canon. It being published under the MC2 imprint in 2006 is proof of that. I couldn't care less about your self-serving farcical reliance on what is/isn't shown in handbooks. And what MC2 Alternate Universe bio are you talking about anyway?

You act like this was some comic strip in a Hostess Cakes ad. facepalm

Originally posted by Mr Master
"Incorrect?" ... heh, cause you say so?
The UN erases from existence something from ever having been, you should know that.
That said, if you nullify Abraxas, then all the Universes he collapse should return to their prior state.
Because well, it would mean he never collapsed them. (re-alignment)
Simple.

I also know that every single thing that the UN has nullified on-panel, the complete past of that thing has not been erased. It sounds great in concept, the UN nullifying from existence everything that it is, was and ever will be. But between Quasar, Morg, Korvac, etc. we know this isn't necessarily true. I don't find quanchi112's reliance on the IG's purple prose convincing, why would I find your reliance on the UN's purple prose any more convincing?

As far as proving even more how utterly wrong you are. I'm not going to dignify your posts until you apologize to GalacticStorm for exchanges like this:

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The Adam Warlock scan where he states the IG's power source is the Power Primordial is from She Hulk v3 #8
The bio is Fallen One/Champions bio from All New Handbook #4
Abraxas' bio is from All New Off HBook #1
The UN's bio from #11
If you cannot read my scans then invest in some specs, or take the initiative and download the comics yourself where you will see the truth. The issue numbers are there. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
ON PANEL>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bio
[QUOTE=9002656]Originally posted by Mr Master
"Should Abraxas reach the NULLIFIER,
He CAN OBLITERATE ALL the COMBINED REALITIES of the MULTI-VERSE"

Crawl back into your crevice of bull shit [/QUOTE]Apologize to GalacticStorm, hold hands together, unite against a "common foe," and then maybe I'll entertain this nonsense. Otherwise, you were right the first time: "ON PANEL>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bio" Nuff said.

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by quanchi112
We both know your continuing rambling on in an attempt to push your desperation in this thread is noted, but I wasn't wrong at all. You know it, I know it, even yellowdog knows it.
Having power which only resides in one universe doesn't mean you are less powerful than someone whose power stretches and reaches into the multiverse. It's complete poop.
I asked you a question. You trying to spin the question around to me in another attempt to steer clear of the trap I set for you is yet another dodge.
Doesn't sruprise me that odg would try to bring in an issue out of continuity to salvage his case.

Sorry if I had to continually dispel your nonsensical excuses when it comes to you talking out of your a$$.

Power which stretches and reaches into the multiverse =/= power that instantly destroys/recreates/manipulates the multiverse.

And I gave you the answer. Assume my answer for me. This time I'm inviting you. And then proceed to explain why you think you're so clever.

Doesn't surprise me that you never read Last Planet Standing.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

I always thought it was canon too, given that Defalco wrote it, as well as pretty much all of the other MC2 universe material. Defalco said it was the sequel to Last Hero Standing, so does the marvel.com website.

SoulDevourer M0DERAT0R

if thats canon then this means Galactus > LT? 😕

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Mr Master
That issue is non-canon.
It's not even referrenced in the MC2 Alternate Universe bio. 😬
(while every other story that took place in it ... is)

The 'Alternate Universe' handbook came out in 2005. "Last Planet Standing" wasn't released until 2006. So obviously it's not going to be mentioned.

Originally posted by Mr Master
LT has "What If" stories referrened in his bios,
if the 'Last Galactus Story' had been canon, it would've been recognized somewhere.

LT's bio was in the #6 issue of the OHOTMU, which was released in June of 2006. "LPS" wasn't released until July 2006. So obviously it's not going to be mentioned in there either.

However, the simple fact that the MC2 universe was mentioned in a handbook as a 100% canon Marvel Universe, should be more than enough to say that all MC2 stories are canon as well. We can't pick and choose which stories we like and which ones we don't, after all.

Philosophía "The devil made me do it"

Originally posted by Galan007
We can't pick and choose which stories we like and which ones we don't, after all.

We can't ?

rotiart Stan Lee Stole my name

What's today's current argument concerning the ig vs un thread

Batman-Prime Kryptonian Scientist

Originally posted by rotiart
What's today's current argument concerning the ig vs un thread

That both are weaker then the CA, I think. 😖hifty: