Infinity Gauntlet Vs. Cosmic Armor

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again, you knew what I meant. Acting cute is about the only thing you have left in this thread. I took your self respect a long time ago.

No, it doesn't. it just means your power can reach a wider range.

You never proved it was completely immune. In comics you can have an immunity to something with no limits. you can also have varying levels of infinity. Quit trying to apply real world logic to the manner in which these powers are described here.

It means that and it also means it's more powerful than a power which functions in only one universe.

We're dealing with your own flawed use of handbooks. So don't project any of that onto me. Something having no limits, except against that which it's power is limited against is an oxymoron. Stop equivocating over terminology. You've literally gutted and disproved the very label that you wishfully attributed to the IG.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok and?

Because I have weighed in on the circumstances of all sides here. Thanos with the ig was more powerful than Maelstrom and the un. One blast is hardly the best it can warrant. Maelstrom pissing all over the multiverse wouldn't change the fact the ig is more powerful than he was.

Again, reaching the multiverse doesn't prove you are more powerful than someone whose power is exclusive in just one universe.

Once again, one tiny nullification is hardly the best the UN can warrant. Good job poking holes in your own reliance on Magus v Quasar. 👆

Except we're not just dealing with "reaching the multiverse," we're dealing with an instantaneous nullification/recreation/manipulation of the entire Marvel Multiverse. You're either straw-manning me or making a false distinction. Neither have worked.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
No, I didn't. And it still doesn't make sense that you would limit the term "abstract" to only Oblivion-level ones. Pointing out where you're wrong, and then pointing out that you're half-a$$ing an excuse to cover it up isn't acting cute. It's more like pointing and making fun of an ugly kid.

It means that and it also means it's more powerful than a power which functions in only one universe.

We're dealing with your own flawed use of handbooks. So don't project any of that onto me. Something having no limits, except against that which it's power is limited against is an oxymoron. Stop equivocating over terminology. You've literally gutted and disproved the very label that you wishfully attributed to the IG. And that means you're wrong for trying to suggest that Quasar's tiny sphere was the same as Reed's instaneous multiversal-wide nullification/recreation/manipulation blast. Sorry if I expected you to keep up with the conversation.

Once again, one tiny nullification is hardly the best the UN can warrant. Good job poking holes in your own reliance on Magus v Quasar. 👆

Except we're not just dealing with "reaching the multiverse," we're dealing with an instantaneous nullification/recreation/manipulation of the entire Marvel Multiverse. You're either straw-manning me or making a false distinction. Neither have worked.

No, it doesn't. By your logic any being whose power can stretch beyond the known universe is more powerful than the ig. Utterly ridiculous.

Quick question for ya. Is the heart multiversal or universal?

The size of it doesn't change the outcome.

That's not proof it's more powerful than the ig though. Range has nothing to do with it.

^ You said Maelstrom wasn't abstract level at that time. He was. You were wrong. Live with it. Don't manufacture after-the-fact excuses or pretend it wasn't anything but that. It's sad.

Your straw-manning might work if it weren't so transparent. Merely being able to extend your power into the multiverse is not evidence of anything, slick. Being able to instantly nullify/recreate/manipulate said multiverse is. You need to come to grips with the UN doing so and the IG not.

Quick question for ya. Was Reed's gun that defeated LT multiversal or universal?

You're right, size doesn't change the outcome. Exponentially vaster size does. And you know what else does? The different energies that did more than just nullify... and what was this "more?" It was recreating AND manipulating that which was nullified.

Exponentially greater range + exponentially greater scope + instantaneous effect over same = more powerful than IG. You can pretend all you want that this isn't the case. It's still on-panel.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ You said Maelstrom wasn't abstract level at that time. He was. You were wrong. Live with it. Don't manufacture after-the-fact excuses or pretend it wasn't anything but that. It's sad.

Your straw-manning might work if it weren't so transparent. Merely being able to extend your power into the multiverse is not evidence of anything, slick. Being able to instantly nullify/recreate/manipulate said multiverse is. You need to come to grips with the UN doing so and the IG not.

Quick question for ya. Was Reed's gun that defeated LT multiversal or universal?

You're right, size doesn't change the outcome. Exponentially vaster size does. And you know what else does? The different energies that did more than just nullify... and what was this "more?" It was recreating AND manipulating that which was nullified.

Exponentially greater range + exponentially greater scope + instantaneous effect over same = more powerful than IG. You can pretend all you want that this isn't the case. It's still on-panel.

You didn't answer the question though... I posed it to you before and you avoided it. Is The Heart universal in power or multiversal?

^ The answer lies in this question: "Was Reed's cosmic gun that pwned Eternity/LT/other Abstracts universal in power or multiversal?"

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ The answer lies in this question: "Was Reed's cosmic gun that pwned Eternity/LT/other Abstracts universal in power or multiversal?"

Thanks for playing ODG. Game set match.

^ No kiddin. It was a predictable ploy and thus fully expected and countered. Insert 2 coins to play again.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ No kiddin. It was a predictable ploy and thus fully expected and countered. Insert 2 coins to play again.

fully countered BWHAHAHA. The game is already over ODG. No need to insert more coins. You refuse to answer because it destroys your theories througout this thread. That is why you refused to answer each and every time I asked it.

in away Reeds gun was multiversal cause it beat LT (whose multiversal)

of cos dat gun aint canon anyway so... ^^

KuRuPT Thanosi: Whatever helps you sleep better. Frankly saving us both time by shooting down your arguments before they're made. Oughtta be thanking me.

SoulDevourer: It is canon. To the LT anyway. Who is the same across the Marvel Multiverse. He's the exception to the alternate universe rule, remember.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
KuRuPT Thanosi: Whatever helps you sleep better. Frankly saving us both time by shooting down your arguments before they're made. Oughtta be thanking me.

SoulDevourer: It is canon. To the LT anyway. Who is the same across the Marvel Multiverse. He's the exception to the alternate universe rule, remember.

you haven't shot down a thing. You won't answer the question because you know the answer defeats your argument this entire thread. So again.. is the heart Multiversal or Universal. No dodging just answer the question on what YOUR opinion is. Thanks and actually try and answer this time instead of projecting some false victory that has yet to occur.

The heart is multiversal. Hearth of the U that is

Originally posted by xJLxKing
The heart is multiversal. Hearth of the U that is

Interesting... I will await ODG answer... Which won't come.. only dodging.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ You said Maelstrom wasn't abstract level at that time. He was. You were wrong. Live with it. Don't manufacture after-the-fact excuses or pretend it wasn't anything but that. It's sad.

Your straw-manning might work if it weren't so transparent. Merely being able to extend your power into the multiverse is not evidence of anything, slick. Being able to instantly nullify/recreate/manipulate said multiverse is. You need to come to grips with the UN doing so and the IG not.

Quick question for ya. Was Reed's gun that defeated LT multiversal or universal?

You're right, size doesn't change the outcome. Exponentially vaster size does. And you know what else does? The different energies that did more than just nullify... and what was this "more?" It was recreating AND manipulating that which was nullified.

Exponentially greater range + exponentially greater scope + instantaneous effect over same = more powerful than IG. You can pretend all you want that this isn't the case. It's still on-panel.

You keep stating the same thing over and over again like I am talking to a wall. Your logic is flawed. Always has been.

Keep dodging my questions. Your logic has been violated every which way. Your logic needs counseling after this debate.

The point is the energy doesn't magically go up to nullify something. You act as if it does. I disagree.

Then just answer my question about the heart please.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Interesting... I will await ODG answer... Which won't come.. only dodging.

^ But he was abstract level. And you never intimated that he wasn't Oblivion-level until it was pointed out otherwise. It's not obvious as you always used the term "abstract" as something that concerns all Abstracts.

You know what's really flawed? Acting like having your power extend into the multiverse is the same as instantly nullifying/recreating/manipulating the multiverse.

What? The same answer to that question is the same answer to your question. Depends on what you want it to be. Since I'd rather not put words into your mouth, you can answer for yourself.

More energy is expended when you have to instantly nullify an entire multiverse as opposed to a single person. It also goes up when you have to recreate/tweak that which is nullified. Uh duh.

Then just answer it yourself! I'm totally inviting you to.

By all means, the floor is yours. You're so used to straw-manning me and putting words into my mouth you can't bring yourself to project your answer to my question onto your own question? Seriously? 😂

Originally posted by xJLxKing
The heart is multiversal. Hearth of the U that is

HOTU>LT>IG
Good enough for you?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ But he was abstract level. And you never intimated that he wasn't Oblivion-level until it was pointed out otherwise. It's not obvious as you always used the term "abstract" as something that concerns all Abstracts.

You know what's really flawed? Acting like having your power extend into the multiverse is the same as instantly nullifying/recreating/manipulating the multiverse.

What? The same answer to that question is the same answer to your question. Depends on what you want it to be. Since I'd rather not put words into your mouth, you can answer for yourself.

More energy is expended when you have to instantly nullify an entire multiverse as opposed to a single person. It also goes up when you have to recreate/tweak that which is nullified. Uh duh.

Then just answer it yourself! I'm totally inviting you to.

By all means, the floor is yours. You're so used to straw-manning me and putting words into my mouth you can't bring yourself to project your answer to my question onto your own question? Seriously? 😂

It's the same logic. You are trying to only focus on one feat and dismiss the logic you are applying to the feat.

Keep dodging. I like it when you run and flee when faced with questions which further destroy your silly little argument.

Ok, and it affecting the multiverse which has never been outrightly stated after the fact doesn't prove it's more powerful than the ig.

I want to hear your opinion on the question I asked not my own.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
but dint Thanos say onpanel that HOTU is jus like the IG? (cept that HOTU becomes part of him so he get more control...or somethin like that...)