what if wilson fisk and lex luthor switched universes ?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Luthor is widely acknowledged as one of DC Earth's smartest people alive. Osborn is hardly acknowledged as one of the smartest people Marvel Earth has to offer. Reed, Doom, Pym, Stark, and McCoy are all people I'd put above Stormin' Norman.

People underestimate Osborn, that's how he got where he is. 🙂

Fisk would be an incredible Batman opponent.

Originally posted by Mindset
Most of those people are above Lex.

People underestimate Osborn, that's how he got where he is. 🙂

Originally posted by Mindset
Most of those people are above Lex.

People underestimate Osborn, that's how he got where he is. 🙂

I agree with them mostly being above Lex; as a rule I think Marvel's egghead and scientist type guys are beyond DC's (counting non augmented intellect or "super" intellect). I also agree with people underestimating Osborn, but when it comes to intellect, I don't think he's on Luthor's level. He makes up with it with his charisma, though, and the fact that the guy was in the right place at the right time.

Lex trumps him when it comes to tech, but in order to usurp his power his intelligence would need to be superior in strategy.

I don't see him being a leagues better than Osborn in that regard, neither are most of Marvel's geniuses.

i say lex is more at tony starks level

Originally posted by Mindset
Lex trumps him when it comes to tech, but in order to usurp his power his intelligence would need to be superior in strategy.

I don't see him being a leagues better than Osborn in that regard, neither are most of Marvel's geniuses.

I can agree with that much.

Luthor's got pretty sweet tech. He occasionally pulls good strategies.

But his *real* strength is the ability to gather other villains under him and get them to work together. Injustice Gangs and Societies of Supervillains. He can whip them up better than anyone I know. That's Lex's role and advantage.

I don't see many Marvel villains working under Lex, not the major ones.

Originally posted by Mindset
I don't see many Marvel villains working under Lex, not the major ones.

I don't see why not. He manages to get villains of all stripes to work under him, from professionals to psychos. That's some impressive people skills.

Originally posted by Q99
I don't see why not. He manages to get villains of all stripes to work under him, from professionals to psychos. That's some impressive people skills.

He could probably get some top tier talent to work with him, provided he could convince them, which isn't a long shot considering who he has enlisted before. Provided that Luthor had the same time to build his power base as Osborn did in the Marvel U, he could probably get mostly everyone on the same page.

More than them. Consider: Would you consider Doom easy to work with? Heck no.

Lex is good at gathering resources. His tech is also really good too (consider how powerful his battlesuit is, and he's had a fair number of other quite powerful inventions. Metallo's no slouch. There's a bunch of one-off devices too), and he's commanding but in not in a "Minions! Do what I command!" way, at least when dealing with other villains. He knows how to appeal to villain's desires and sell them on working together, and he brings a fair amount to the table personally with his resources and brains too.

Doom's better at tech, but the Doom-level people in Marvel rarely build teams or are easy to work with.

I think Lex'd be a major player.

Originally posted by Q99
I don't see why not. He manages to get villains of all stripes to work under him, from professionals to psychos. That's some impressive people skills.

What major villains in Marvel would work under Lex?

Originally posted by Mindset
Because they wouldn't...

What major villains in Marvel would work under Lex?

Originally posted by chomperx9
red skull

Originally posted by chomperx9
red skull

I would bet that Luthor wouldn't want to work with him

I could see Sentry

I think Marvel's big three villians - Doom, Skull, and Magneto - wouldn't bother working with Luthor. I also think that he wouldn't bother trying to get them around to his way of thinking, either.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I think Marvel's big three villians - Doom, Skull, and Magneto - wouldn't bother working with Luthor. I also think that he wouldn't bother trying to get them around to his way of thinking, either.

but who in the DC universe would work for fisk ?