what if wilson fisk and lex luthor switched universes ?

Started by redhotrash6 pages

Nice of someone to get some Joker wank in here, completely undeserved. Thats said its a shame Fisk cant bring a few of his lackies with him, like Bullseye for example. Also, classic Kingpin was pretty f'ing strong, it'd almost be like fighting Bane but with better h2h skills and a laser pimp cane.
Lex on the other hand I can see getting some good criminals under him. He'd get a lot of B-Listers working for him, like the Wrecking Crew, Absorbing Man (who is pretty beastly himself), Maybe some of the frightful 4. He'd also do more to make them a threat rather than just randomly sending them off to fight. The wrecking crew with tech power upgrades or Absorbing Man with a adamantium necklace would be pretty rough to handle.

Re: what if wilson fisk and lex luthor switched universes ?

Originally posted by chomperx9
what the thread title says.

if wilson fisk and luthor switched marvel and DC universes do you think they would be able to accomplish things better ?

would lex luthor be able to take out spiderman

and king pin find away to kill superman for good

yeah it would take some time to learn theire new enemies but would they be able to pull it off ?

i think they would be great business partners.

Fisk can't even beat Spiderman so I have to say Superman would chew him up and spit him out. Lex has come close to beating Superman so he might beat Spiderman but Spiderman would probably win since Lex is just like Norman Osborn who has never beat Spiderman.

you realize fisk has smacked the sh@$ out of spiderman on a repeated bases? im just saying that he has...

yeah until recently before BND. Back in Black Spidey absolutely humiliated him as he should. And I think we can all agree that Luthor would fare far better than Fisk if they switched places

Originally posted by Superherovandal
If that were true Doom would have killed tons of super-geniuses in Marvel but he doesn't. Luthor I believe would fair much better than Kingpin. Luthor is far more resourceful. He's tons smarter. He wouldn't need to hire supergeniuses cause he'd be the smartest one in the room. Kingpin could fair well but in the end he'd nowhere near achieve the status that Luthor has as he's not smart enough and he'd need resources and a reputation that he wouldn't have in DC. It'd be much easier for Luthor to establish himself as a supercriminal. He'd just invent a supergadget in about half an hour, sell it to someone, and bam!!! he has a ton of money with which to build his resources the guy has been president of the USA for cripes sake. He'd be able to work the really corrupt current MU govt.
Luthor is the greater scientist that does not make him the better strategist or tactician.

Lets not forget that Kingpin at his peak controlled the US goverment from the shadows and has a piece of every criminal transaction on the planet.

Originally posted by godking
Luthor is the greater scientist that does not make him the better strategist or tactician.

Lets not forget that Kingpin at his peak controlled the US goverment from the shadows and has a piece of every criminal transaction on the planet.

and Lex at his peak was president....so...that's moot. Lex is also quite the strategist and tactictian

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
It's ridiculous how Marvel fans are comparing Norman to Lex.
C'mon now... Norman to Lex? that's absurd.

Fisk.. he would become a generic Batman villain.

No matter how hard he'll try to hide, the World's Greatest Detective will track him down sooner or later.

Besides, Fisk is no intellectual. He's probably one of the best in Marvel, but he will never be in DC.
When all his resources run dry, and his criminal intents are exposed, I see him becoming one of Ra's Al Ghul's lackeys.

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Originally posted by Superherovandal
and Lex at his peak was president....so...that's moot. Lex is also quite the strategist and tactictian

Not really moot because controlling the US government without anyone knowing is > than being president.

Also Fisk would never take such a public position, not his MO though lex on the other hand had a big ass ego that needs to be constantly stroked.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
and Lex at his peak was president....so...that's moot. Lex is also quite the strategist and tactictian
It is better to rule from the shadows rather then being president.

Presidents come and go but ruling from the shadows is safer.

Luthors ego needs to be constantly stroked while Fisk is content to rule from the shadows which is safer and more profitable in the long run.

Fisk will always outlast Luthor because most people wont even know he is controlling them.

Yo.

Originally posted by Mindset
Most of those people are above Lex.

People underestimate Osborn, that's how he got where he is. 🙂

the only ones above Lex in that small list would be Reed, and *maybe* Doom in pure intelligence, and as for deviousness he's about equal to Doom.

Norm only got to where he was by: 1) pure chance, and 2) stupid MU-Americans (atleast Lex had to work on his public img to get voted in as Prez, Norm got assigned to his position by morons looking to blame a person who was just as much a victim as anybody else.)

Tazer

Yo.

Originally posted by godking
Lets not forget that Kingpin at his peak controlled the US goverment from the shadows and has a piece of every criminal transaction on the planet.

so he was getting some of the action that The Hood was taking in??

I find that a bit hard to believe.

Tazer

It would be party time for Lex.

In MU, he has no history of being a villain. It wouldn't be long till he became president, and then he can do all his evil deeds secretly, and there wouldn't be a Batman/Superman to uncover him.

Fisk really seems to have built a lot of his criminal empire during the period of Marvel before most of the heroes came out- by the time DD and Spidey met him, he was already in charge, and he's lost influence since.

He's a smart guy, but I doubt he'll have the same level of success he did in Marvel. A player, instead of The player.

Lex would crap himself and commit suicide
Fisk would laugh his ass off at the old fashioned Gotham and become a suitable rival to the Joker!
The second joker would turn up to one of there cookie cutter meetings kingpin would just squeez his head up.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
It's ridiculous how Marvel fans are comparing Norman to Lex.
C'mon now... Norman to Lex? that's absurd.

Fisk.. he would become a generic Batman villain.

No matter how hard he'll try to hide, the World's Greatest Detective will track him down sooner or later.

Besides, Fisk is no intellectual. He's probably one of the best in Marvel, but he will never be in DC.
When all his resources run dry, and his criminal intents are exposed, I see him becoming one of Ra's Al Ghul's lackeys.

facepalm DC wank.

Originally posted by Deadline
facepalm DC wank.

Absolutely agreed bud.

Luther would mastered his surroundings in Metropolis City a new world would cripple him. But kingpin is a street thug nowhere close to Supervillian Luther. But Kingpin would easily thrive in Gotham and will grow much faster. Personally I think Wilson Fisk would mess up most of DCs gotham villians. He is just too down to earth whereas most the others are just nuts.

Luther has mastered his surroundings in Metropolis City, a new world would cripple him. But kingpin is a street thug nowhere close to Supervillian Luther. But Kingpin would easily thrive in Gotham and will grow much faster. Personally I think Wilson Fisk would mess up most of DCs gotham villians. He is just too down to earth whereas most the others are just nuts.

Re: what if wilson fisk and lex luthor switched universes ?

Originally posted by chomperx9
what the thread title says.

would lex luthor be able to take out spiderman

Yes.

Originally posted by chomperx9
and king pin find away to kill superman for good

Yes. Kingpin could find a way.

Originally posted by chomperx9
theire new enemies but would they be able to pull it off ?

Luthor would.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Not really moot because controlling the US government without anyone knowing is > than being president.

Also Fisk would never take such a public position, not his MO though lex on the other hand had a big ass ego that needs to be constantly stroked.


Which is why I liked DCAU Luthor so much. He ran a Presidential campaign as a front for his real plan.