Count Dooku (Physical Prime) Vs. Mace windu

Started by Lord Lucien8 pages

There's an Edit button.

Maybe he thinks its for decoration, like the Report button.

I can see that sidious was overpowered in saber to saber combat due to physical influences and other factors. But what I meant by Sidious purposely lost the duel, was or more less the whole picture, not just the saber portion.

I do believe that if anakin was never a factor in that fight, as in sidious never had any intention to turn him, the duel would have turned out quite different, and I do believe sidious would have been using force powers intermingled with his saber combat from the very get go, seeing as purely in sabers he wasn't going to overcome him.

Originally posted by Board Walker
I can see that sidious was overpowered in saber to saber combat due to physical influences and other factors. But what I meant by Sidious purposely lost the duel, was or more less the whole picture, not just the saber portion.

I do believe that if anakin was never a factor in that fight, as in sidious never had any intention to turn him, the duel would have turned out quite different, and I do believe sidious would have been using force powers intermingled with his saber combat from the very get go, seeing as purely in sabers he wasn't going to overcome him.

You're a stubborn one, aren't you.

Sidious wasn't aware of Anakin while duelling Mace, so he wasn't a factor during the first part in which Mace disarmed Sidious. Sidious was overpowered by Vaapad, simple as that.

I do believe sidious was aware of Anakin during the duel, by expectation of his arrival, as well as being able to feel him approaching.

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
You're a stubborn one, aren't you.

Sidious wasn't aware of Anakin while duelling Mace, so he wasn't a factor during the first part in which Mace disarmed Sidious. Sidious was overpowered by Vaapad, simple as that.

I don't know if I like this. How would it have helped his bid to claim Anakin if he said "THE JEDIZ R EVIL THEY TRIED TO INSEMINATE MEbut i kinda killed them"

Especially if Anakin walked in on Sidious standing over 4 bodies.

Originally posted by Board Walker
I do believe sidious was aware of Anakin during the duel, by expectation of his arrival, as well as being able to feel him approaching.
What you believe is irrelevant. You can't claim it as truth.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
What you believe is irrelevant. You can't claim it as truth.

Truth is what ever you decide for it to be, just as you have your own paradigm of what truth is and isn't.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Truth is what ever you decide for it to be, just as you have your own paradigm of what truth is and isn't.

WTF? There cannot be two truths. There can be relative degrees to which one claims on thing or another (i.e. it's cold - no it isn't, not for me 'cause I'm used to much colder weather). I am the President of the Unites States of America has no basis whatsoever in truth, no matter how strongly I decide it to be true.

Originally posted by Board Walker
I can see that sidious was overpowered in saber to saber combat due to physical influences and other factors. But what I meant by Sidious purposely lost the duel, was or more less the whole picture, not just the saber portion.

Sorry, the G-canon novel makes it clear sidious was losing that duel. Not faking it.

And ROTS sidious saber skills are 13 years out of practice, the only time sidious was truly "godly" with a saber was either in TPM or in DE.

no

[housequote]There is only one truth. It is the same for everybody.[/housequote] Or, at least, there have been no corroborated instances of divergence between one subjective experience (of interaction with the non-personal universe) and another; we're all in the same boat.

[Here's the part where I illustrate the flaws in your worldview by strictly adhering to the underlying axioms and arrive at a conclusion shocking (if not repulsive) to anyone that subscribes to the system in question under the guise of admitting the possibility that you are right]

"we are all in the same boat...

Else: I just decided that the sidewalk truly contains a mechanism that contaminates anyone that walks on it with the virus "Solanum" (which turns anyone that comes into contact with it into a zombie) and the only way to prevent the destabilization of society (and the deaths of countless millions of human and non-human lives) is to decapitate anyone that treads on the pavement between my driveway and the neighbor's using a rusty spoon. I assure you it is a painful process- for them. (The truth is that the virus doesn't kick in until after they've left the property.)

If truth about the universe is subjective then there is no definition of insanity.

For a much less pretentious (and much less strugglin'😉 post than mine, try this:

Originally posted by Jinsoku Takai
WTF? There cannot be two truths. There can be relative degrees to which one claims on thing or another (i.e. it's cold - no it isn't, not for me 'cause I'm used to much colder weather). I am the President of the Unites States of America has no basis whatsoever in truth, no matter how strongly I decide it to be true.

If the truth is relative, then nothing is false and the person that believes that truth is objective is just as valid as the person that believes that truth is relative.

Relativism is self defeating.

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
I don't know if I like this. How would it have helped his bid to claim Anakin if he said "THE JEDIZ R EVIL THEY TRIED TO INSEMINATE MEbut i kinda killed them"

Especially if Anakin walked in on Sidious standing over 4 bodies.

Well then I don't like it either. Ah crap, it's my own post... Now do I like it or not?

It's like, what if Pinnochio said "My nose will grow."

Originally posted by Slash_KMC

It's like, what if Pinnochio said "My nose cock will grow."
Ding ding ding!

If the truth is relative, then nothing is false

Not necessarily.

The truth can vary from A-D among an entire set of people, making it relative, but if it doesn't extend to E then E is absolutely false among that set of people.

Assuming E's say in the matter isn't relative.

A-E being potential truths (E not being held by a person within the group, A-D being held by people within the group). If truth were relative but didn't in the case of any person extend to E then E is absolutely false, while A-D are variably true.

Then E, not being held within relativity, is beyond any conversation concerning relativity.

...The point being that the concept of truth being relative does not eliminate the possibility of something being absolutely false.