Darkseid w/ ALE vs. Lucifer

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Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

Originally posted by quanchi112
He needed ds and his yes men off the planet. Superman did it without even breaking a sweat.

Supes also beat him into submission. 😂


Referring to that crap AN again? For the one time that has happened Darkseid has beaten or zapped Superman into submission many more times.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Referring to that crap AN again? For the one time that has happened Darkseid has beaten or zapped Superman into submission many more times.
It's canon. Keep ignoring superman crushing him it won't change things.

KuRuPT Thanosi Senior Member

Well see, me and Quan disagree on this point. I believe DS to be superman's superior in most ways.. sans speed, durability to same a few. I do believe Seid falls victim to certain heroes aura's at times. No issue there. My only contention is that Thanos faces the same heroes and is still portrayed as their superior pretty much all the time. He even faces stronger foes and isn't put down. Point being, Thanos doesn't have the losing record DS does and that is just a plain fact.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Well see, me and Quan disagree on this point. I believe DS to be superman's superior in most ways.. sans speed, durability to same a few. I do believe Seid falls victim to certain heroes aura's at times. No issue there. My only contention is that Thanos faces the same heroes and is still portrayed as their superior pretty much all the time. He even faces stronger foes and isn't put down. Point being, Thanos doesn't have the losing record DS does and that is just a plain fact.
Superman's proven more than once to be an equal if not superior to Ds in terms of a fight.

Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman's proven more than once to be an equal if not superior to Ds in terms of a fight.

Even in the fights where Superman wins its clear he only wins due to sheer determination and luck. What part of David and Goliath don't you understand?

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Even in the fights where Superman wins its clear he only wins due to sheer determination and luck. What part of David and Goliath don't you understand?
What writer ever compared these two to them?

Allankles Kwisatz Haderach
Originally posted by quanchi112
Tyrant, Odin, Maker, Thor with the power gem are all greater than DD, Raker, Orion, and superman.

True. But DS has victories over those names, unlike Thanos (with the exception of Maker) And he has victories over skyfathers like Highfather, Mordu and Time Trapper on top of those heroes. Not to mention defeating the Olympian gods, and other 3rd world gods/pantheons on Earth and the universe at large.

In DC it is stated that all other gods are a shadow of the power of even the least of the New Gods. A race where the average is creating your own universe, so powerwise DS is up there. Add all his creation feats and reality warping feats and it's easy to see why the guy is the most feared despot in the multiverse.

New Genesis is the only reason Apokolips doesn't run rough shod over most of the multiverse. When you have enemies that can create devices like the Genesis Box, victory is hard to achieve.

You don't seem to get that DS is right up there in the cosmic hierachy. Obviously Thanos isn't as high in his universe's hierachy.

Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

Originally posted by quanchi112
What writer ever compared these two to them?

No one in particular but its clear that every time Superman fights Darkseid he takes it more seriously than his fights with guys like Lobo or even Brainiac. There's always a sense of urgency. No villain makes Superman more nervous than Darkseid, he's like Superman's R'as Al Ghul. He may not be the most famous or recurring foe (as Joker is to Batman and Lex Luthor is to Superman) but he is the most dangerous (as R'as Al Ghul is to Batman).
The idea that Superman is Darkseid's superior in terms of power is pure comedy, even saying they are equals is a laugh and a half. If you focus on more than just the last six or so years you'll see that more often than not Darkseid bests if not straight up mops the floor with Superman.

ares834 Senior Member

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's canon. Keep ignoring superman crushing him it won't change things.

So Squirrel Girl crushed Thanos. 😱

Also DS is far superior to Superman.

Mindset Senior Member

Squirrel Girl would crush all DC.

Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

Originally posted by Mindset
Squirrel Girl would crush all DC.

Only because Batman is dea--I mean taking a nap right now.

Mindset Senior Member

Squirrel Girl would resurrect him then erase him from existence.

Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

Originally posted by Mindset
Squirrel Girl would resurrect him then erase him from existence.

But in waking him from his slumber she would be hit by the Bat-yawn which even the Presence fears.

Mindset Senior Member

Good thing SG > Presence.

ares834 Senior Member

Originally posted by Mindset
Squirrel Girl would resurrect him then erase him from existence.

😠 The Batgod would take her down...

Mindset Senior Member

Good one.

ares834 Senior Member

Originally posted by Mindset
Good one.

Of course. Would you expect anything less from me? 😉

Mindset Senior Member

Yes.

ares834 Senior Member

Originally posted by Mindset
Yes.

🙁

Mindset Senior Member

lol