War and Link vs Kratos, Bayonetta and Dante

I made his hands huge to minimise the PSI. Look at your own hand, it's palm is probably 4 inches square. I made Link's 144 square inches. 😛 That's how much down rounding I did @_@.

You still have to divide square feet/force by square inches to get the value in inches in teh first place dont you before dividing by surface area. Or can you divide straight from square feet?

btw I think I know why Blood is confused now...

You have to convert from foot pounds to inches firs,t yes. That's a seperate step.

War and Link vs Kratos, Bayonetta and Dante: A giant mathematical discussion.

This thread has offically turned into a math topic.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You have to convert from foot pounds to inches firs,t yes. That's a seperate step.

War and Link vs Kratos, Bayonetta and Dante: A giant mathematical discussion.

Good, thats what makes sense. Therefore Dante if the strike hit his palms head on took an impact of about 512 tonnes of PSI, although technically the surface area that was struck was dantes sword. Should we calculate the swords surface area instead of his hands or do we ignore the sword? surely it makes a huge difference on the impact? considering the surface area is the sword?

If so then his sword takes divides the PSI more so giving you only about 45 tonnes of PSI on Dante (or the sword? which would then travel through Dante, maybe at a decreased PSI).

Well I think you threw us by using a square foot for links hands. our equation is different in the fact in the hopes of getting a more specific result I attempted to get the closest "area" of Dantes palms to divide by. which was 22 inches combined (both his hands).

You'd still have to run the numbers based on his hands, because the force acts on him through his sword, and he holds it with his hands.

Ofc, but you would be using the surface area of the sword, not his hands? because the sword is the area being struck?

Nah:
The force will travel through the sword and into Dante, but the important connection isn't the strike ot the sword, but the sword to Dante's palms. The blow will be spread out over the sword, but it will be concentrated again when it gets to his palms.

Wouldnt the force be redued by the time it gets to his palms? if its spread over the sword then goes to his palms etc?

The swords surface area has to be relevent in some form and has to effect how much force is on Dantes palms. Sure the sword is being pushed, but then the impact is still on the sword. Likely why Dante blocked with his sword in the first place and not just with his hands.

You also need to take the angle of the strike into effect, because a LOT of power can be deflected with the slightest change in impact angle.

Were not taking into account arc or angle, all the calculations are based on an object moving in a straight line. Calculation of angle and arc is harder.

But that is inevitably what is going to happen.

Wouldnt the force be redued by the time it gets to his palms? if its spread over the sword then goes to his palms etc?

The swords surface area has to be relevent in some form and has to effect how much force is on Dantes palms. Sure the sword is being pushed, but then the impact is still on the sword. Likely why Dante blocked with his sword in the first place and not just with his hands.

excellent.

And from all this we learn......what exactly?

Originally posted by Maester_yoda
And from all this we learn......what exactly?

Nooo idea, i was in it for the simple matter that Dante is strong, not that interested in the pressure he can take.

*Waves my Dante flag and sits in a corner*

Lol.... ok. Hey can i have a Dante flag? I already have a War t-shirt, socks, and shorts.....

Originally posted by Maester_yoda
And from all this we learn......what exactly?

So far that Dante can take about 512 tonnes of force on his hands....or through his body. Therefore unless someone can create excess of that in pressure its useless. Therefore (again) War or Link need to be able to create over 512 tonnes PSI.

But this calculation is going to change slightly when paste has some info on this sword problem.

Sword wouldnt matter as it would go into devilboy but meh

Originally posted by Maester_yoda
Lol.... ok. Hey can i have a Dante flag? I already have a War t-shirt, socks, and shorts.....

Rewatching the cutscene, and the way he holds the sword, It seems clear that the sword did absorb some of the impact. But as for a concrete number, all I can find are complicated equations, so far. 😛

What I can say is that: Upon striking the sword and transferring the energy of the punch, a certain amount of that would be expended. How much is open for interpretation.

The kinetic energy would travel through the sword, dispersing slightly, as well as being converted to heat, or being lost to friction. Some would travel into the air behind the sword, and some would be refocused into Dante's palms.