War and Link vs Kratos, Bayonetta and Dante

Started by ScreamPaste60 pages

Sin: I still STRONGLY DISAGREE, SIR! D:<

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Let's see if this works.

Edit: Okay, it did. Anyway, I'd note the part about the Golden Power being both omniscient and omnipotent. According to the manual of AlttP, Ganon wished to control the world. However, he was in the Sacred Realm and was instead given that. Ganon, in his infinite wisdom, decided he wanted to conquer the world the old fashioned way after this.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Cyner, I'm sorry to tell you nothing particularly broken happens in Spirit Tracks. That game is all about Zelda and her awesome new Phantom Armor.

🙁

i'm sure i'll still enjoy it though... well unless the ocean king temple is in it. Then I'll just sell it.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
It's already been outlined that Link yelling in no way shows him struggling.

Neither Link nor the hulk ignore physics. Rulk does though, because he's a Gary Stu. You're using a fallacy here.

Link's back, legs, and shoulders /all/ need to be able to support the weight of the pillar for him to lift and throw it, and they do.

No youve reached for it by bringing in irrelevant moments of him grunting, I am sure I have gruntd more times than lifting heavy objects too, I am sure i have sighed with stress over tension over more times than lifting something that makes my eyes bulge, does not mean I effortlessly lift these objects and that I am grunting because it amuses me...

Now your making blind statements, "theyz are nots coz my arguments has to be right but i cantz argues it sorries!"

Links fiction outlines where his power is going, his arms, Links fiction outlines that he wears little iron boots that apprently increase his weight by only 5x. So its not only this feat that he ignores physics but apprently against those 200 ton gorons. Sorry, but LoZ unlike a lot of games we argue does completly ignore physics.

Unless ofc you have an equation that would make it logical for Link to ride happily and safely to the ground from a dissolving moon on a rainbow?

Originally posted by Cyner
Scenario is right Link doesn't even need the strength when he can have an infinite magic bar and spam ether, bombos, earthquake, Spell, Thunder, etc etc. on top of his durability is the stacked items/clothing, aura's and powers. Both the Phantom Sword and the Master Sword have unique abilities to negate the power of the other team and with the four sword he can replicate his power. When I get done beating spirit tracks I'm sure something broken will come up from that game also.

Edit: NO I'm not conceding the strength feat because it's a LEGIT feat. However I am saying that he already solo's the thread.

😆 your just listing powers though, most of these would be useless when he is activating them or moving at speeds that Dante and bayonetta laugh at. His durability is ignored because it does not exist in canon, gameplay statemens and no limit fallacies are the onyl thing that can possibly give him some major durability enough to survive Team 2.

Its not legit, your doing a "scream" and stateing now without argueing. Its impossible. Link is doing a loltoonforce again 🙄

When I see "he already solos" thats the kind of blind fanboyism that makes the rest of your blind rant make sense.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Agreed, this thread was not made with fairness in mind. It was probably just made because the fan element on Link is strong in this forum and Darkest wanted to see if the fans can defeat sense/physics and logic. Fortunatley a few people who have actually some sense and have played LoZ are here so the answer is no.

Agreed

Link is being exaggerated too damn much.

Proof?

plenty of it in the last few pages. They do not need proof when thats the case. Any thread against Dante or bayonetta where Link apprently solos is an exaggeration of Link.

Some definite Link fanboy evidence, sure, but exaggeration? Nah. It is what it is.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Some definite Link fanboy evidence, sure, but exaggeration? Nah. It is what it is.

Not everything in a video game has to be logical, truth or a strong feat. Exaggeration is taking iron boots and claiming their stronger because based on logic or math the Gorons that are supposedly 200 tons in weight that the boots trip should shatter iron. Exaggeration is adding strength to Link in places where its never been said or stated to be with the idea that it has to be this way because it works to your argument. Point being, Links feasability in his feats is being exaggerated more so than anything, the way I see it and I am sure many would agree is that some things are shown or displayed (rainbow victory ftw!) for the sake of fun, not logic or sense.

That is kind of exaggeration AND fanboy evidence. Mach 22 is also exaggeration and durability.

But here's the problem with your view. It is unable to explain away the claimed feats, thereby getting the argument nowhere, and leaving the explanation standing. Overlooking it isn't good enough.

It can simply be "toonforce" and be claimed as an invalid showing. Certainly in the department of using maths to define his exact strength based on it. Disregarding it as legitimate is the only sensible decision we can make on that feat. We will have to use a more likely, physics associated feat.

If that's the case, then every single video game in its entirety should be nothing but toonforce, and this forum shouldn't exist.

Just because you cant explain something doesn't mean it didn't happen or doesn't exist.
The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
If that's the case, then every single video game in its entirety should be nothing but toonforce, and this forum shouldn't exist.

Just because you cant explain something doesn't mean it didn't happen or doesn't exist.
The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

No because most videogame characters feats are not based on the single desire of "fun" for the player, it also takes into account certain values in physics and makes sure a lot of its characters who do ridiculous things (Kain, Dante, bayonetta, Kratos) are fully explained through supernatural forces, magic or innate physical superiority. Link is explained in some areas, fairy magic, gauntlets but not in others. Sceampaste desperatly trying to change the materials of things or argue that Link "has to" be strong/druable in certain areas is not an argument supported by his own fiction.

No, its if the game does not explain anything about the subject, have any implication of it being probable or do not explain their own fiction. In a game like LoZ where link can float down from a moons destruction on a happy little rainbow the absence of evidence is indeed proof of absense. Certainly for logic/physics. And we do have proof for there not being physics, my example shows it.

On this forum it is, otherwise you could say that about anything....you could not disregard Kain tossing planets and wiping out galaxies with his breath because "the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence" right? 🙄

Originally posted by Phanteros
Bayo solos
Originally posted by Burning thought
When I see "he already solos" thats the kind of blind fanboyism that makes the rest of your blind rant make sense.

you sir are a hypocrite

Originally posted by Maester_yoda
you sir are a hypocrite

I disagree, I dont remember saying Link solos against these characters before....

And bayonetta could solo, that does not make Phanteros a fanboy. Shes fast, strong and has a lot of magic powers. Also if youve played the game you would know she would be invisible to Link and possibly to War if they do not have any way of seeing the invisible.

war has a mask that allows him to see in the spiritual realm/alternate realm. i would suspect that this is where bayo goes so he could see her.

Originally posted by Maester_yoda
war has a mask that allows him to see in the spiritual realm/alternate realm. i would suspect that this is where bayo goes so he could see her.

Well she usually enters purgatory, between heaven/hell and earth. She can touch physical things in the physical realm but they cannot seem to be able to see or touch her.

War has his hookshot that can take beings who have a physical body and they turn intangible much like a ghost and can pull their physical form out with it....did that make sense?

So he fires the shot at an ethereal entity and when he pulls it they become material or something?