War and Link vs Kratos, Bayonetta and Dante

Started by Burning thought60 pages

It seems the Phantom sword needs special spheres to activate, thats probably yet another item he has to pull out of his ass in an effort to mount some sort of offense, same with his little glass vials for drinking.

Originally posted by Burning thought
I read it, it has no relevence to your statement.

It can be both, I am just being a really nice guy and taking the "math" seriously just to give Link some feat, technically the whole thing is toonforce, he has no strength or durability by the games logic other than in his arms. And go and find me the storyline statement or developer statement that link is natrually superhuman, dont come back until you do, ok thx bai!

I do, sometimes however I wish I did not read the lollovelink club posts, their repetitive, boring and full of the same stuff I have rebuked.

I really wish I knew what you were talking about now. But I can't because even you don't know what you're talking about.

The part that kills me the most is that you don't actually react to anything any of us posts. If you actually read them your posts would change. But instead it's the same thing you literally ignore them and repost the same thing over and over again with slight word placement changes and maybe a new sentence or two.

You didn't "rebuke" anything. Unless rebuke is British slang for "ignore and act superior."

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I really wish I knew what you were talking about now. But I can't because even you don't know what you're talking about.

The part that kills me the most is that you don't actually react to anything any of us posts. If you actually read them your posts would change. But instead it's the same thing you literally ignore them and repost the same thing over and over again with slight word placement changes and maybe a new sentence or two.

You didn't "rebuke" anything. Unless rebuke is British slang for "ignore and act superior."

Then by your logic your a hypocrite because thats exactly what your doing 🙄

Ofc your just trolling now, youve not an argument to stand on.

I have plenty, which you are ignoring. See? You did the same thing, tell me I have no argument and act superior.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I have plenty, which you are ignoring. See? You did the same thing, tell me I have no argument and act superior.

If I was ignoring your "arguments" (where are they? are they invisble or do you count trolling as an argument?) then please quote them.....I could probably quote where I answered them.

I'll do one better, I'll quote my post and then quote you ignoring it and restating your idiocy.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Congratulations on telling me what I already know, dumbass. If anything, I'd say the Zelda description is more Hyperbole, but neither that or the Pokedex are hyperbole. The language and the way it's worded are far too specific. Things in the Pokedex are "Charizard's fire can reach heats of 10,000 degress Fahrenheit." But Hyperbole would be something like "Charizard's fire is hotter than hell."

Nobody added anything. But that strength feat does speak for durability. We have plenty of other durability feats that speak for themselves. Now you've retreated back to denying evidence and shouting toonforce. Good job.

There's mine. Now here's yours.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Then maybe you should stop asking pointless questions and tossing out red herrings. Saying "power in arms" is hyperbole shows you dont have a clue what it means.

Erm yes they do, Link is never stated to be naturally superhuman in any way, shape or form. Therefore any super feat he does where it would be impossible for an entity such as he to survive it is toonforce, alongside bouncing gorons, magical happy rainbows in majoras and iron boots apprently tripping 200 ton gorons. Your taking a series seriously thats not supposed to be. Theres evidence for toonforce, hence why you are the one denying evidence. Show me the statement/canon description that Link is naturally superhuman?

I like how you whine about how theres different Links who have been knocked out or defeated in silly or pathetic ways yet apparently the ones with unlrealistic feats against physics and the games logic just happen to be the correct portrayle of Link. If anything I think the ones where the skinny little guy without natural superhuman ability is getting knocked otu with ease is the more likely. Not your "excemptions" and "additions".

My post:

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Hey, dumbass, check your definition. You're the one who doesn't know what it means.

http://www.dictionary.com

Have fun.

You claim to have seen videos of this, but I don't think you have. Any normal human could interpret what they see in those videos through the use of their eyes, but their eyes would never see this "magic happy rainbow" that you seem to be overly fond of saving Link. It extends out past where Link is shown to be, far into the forest. Perhaps if you had played the game you might understand the geography of the game a little bit better. Link is shown to be superhuman, and I believe yesterday you were accepting it as a legitimate feat but claiming it was mathed wrong. So which is it? Is it toonforce or a real feat mathed wrong? Pick one "argument" and defend it, dumbass, it can't be both.

I like how yo-- actually, I don't like anything about you. But thanks for liking something about me. 👆

You really don't read posts at all, do you?

And yours:

Originally posted by Burning thought
I read it, it has no relevence to your statement.

It can be both, I am just being a really nice guy and taking the "math" seriously just to give Link some feat, technically the whole thing is toonforce, he has no strength or durability by the games logic other than in his arms. And go and find me the storyline statement or developer statement that link is natrually superhuman, dont come back until you do, ok thx bai!

I do, sometimes however I wish I did not read the lollovelink club posts, their repetitive, boring and full of the same stuff I have rebuked.

I even bolded them for you. And in your first post I bolded that lie part where you said there was evidence for toonforce. That made me lol.

I gotta say BT, you're whole debating tactic is as follows:

1. Deny opposition's claims
2. Ask for proof of every claim while vigorously seeking a gap (tunnel vision)
3. Call "toonforce"
4. Repeat

YouTube video

"His power resides within you."
"You are the hero chosen by the gods."
etc. etc.

I don't know. Sounds superhuman to me. Or at least semi-divine.

YouTube video

Just to reiterate. I don't know what good it'll do, though.

It doesn't matter if he's stated to be superhuman or not. He's shown to be so in numerous occasions.

But thanks for defeating him with his own crappy argument anyway.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Bayonetta's best feat was nullified by occuring in space, and I proved Link is stronger than Kratos in another thread.

Actually I proved Kratos' was stronger but you kept denying.


No he isn't. WW magic armour is a spell, an instant spell, and one that runs off of Link's soon-to-be-infinite magic.

I never played WW so TP's Magic armor is all I know.


How is it explained she sees them, what's said about them being invislbe and intangible, ect? Have a video?

1. Interacting with a human in the train station brings that up.
2. People in the game (humans) never see Bayonetta and she can walk through them with no problem.
2. One of Tony Redgraves' pages mention something of that (I think).
3. Cereza (who's actually Bayonetta as a little girl) mentions that she can see angels (who are invisible).

I can't show you everything, as that would take lots of time, but I got one video:

YouTube video

Just to note, the ghosts you see during the gameplay are humans. Bayonetta can exist outside of the human dimension to a point where she's like a phantom.


No she can't, it's inside Link's magic bubble.

No problem; she can just summon a demon and let it do some dirty work. Not only will there be a possibility of that shield being shattered, the milk will spill too.


Phantom sword time-stop + decapitation, effective?

Maybe to Dante and Kratos but he's not touching Bayonetta with it (and I doubt she's an idiot to reveal herself).

Double post

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I'll do one better, I'll quote my post and then quote you ignoring it and restating your idiocy.

There's mine. Now here's yours.

My post:

And yours:

I even bolded them for you. And in your first post I bolded that lie part where you said there was evidence for toonforce. That made me lol.

Ah and heres your mistake, you seem to think that me disagreeing with you is "ignoring" you, no I am sorry but thats not how it works. Let me guess, if I simply agreed then I would have answered your argument instead of ignored it? 🙄 silly....

Originally posted by LLLLLink
I gotta say BT, you're whole debating tactic is as follows:

1. Deny opposition's claims
2. Ask for proof of every claim while vigorously seeking a gap (tunnel vision)
3. Call "toonforce"
4. Repeat

Thats a bit of a generalisation, you mean you think my argument in this thread is as follows? since I do not claim toonforce for any other character other than Mario, sonic etc.

1. Obviously, their claims are ridiculous
2. I always find my gap, like I have this time.
3. Well sure, rainbow escapes and ignoring logic/physics is very much like toonforce.
4. Well I have to, most of Links support are like broken records, their argument is trashed yet they have to repeat themselves over and over instead of simply conceding, sad really.

Originally posted by The Scenario
YouTube video

"His power resides within you."
"You are the hero chosen by the gods."
etc. etc.

I don't know. Sounds superhuman to me. Or at least semi-divine.

YouTube video

Just to reiterate. I don't know what good it'll do, though.

Those are not indications of innate power, its like storyline script. Nothing there that would imply he has greater strength/durability than a man merely that the Gods have chosen him. The light spirit seems to be talking about the Link before the one in that vid and how they are related.

I dont understand the second vid, do you mind pointing out the time that I am supposed to be watching from?

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
It doesn't matter if he's stated to be superhuman or not. He's shown to be so in numerous occasions.

But thanks for defeating him with his own crappy argument anyway.

😆 you grasp onto any straw you can hope to hold on to. Bugs bunny, mario and scooby doo are also all shown to bend physics just like Link, their not supposed to be taken seriously and neither is he. His feats are not legit in this case anyway.

Wind Waker Magic Armor. At 1:10.

YouTube video

The guy playing absolutely sucks, but it's the best I can do right now. As you can see, the Magic Armor activates instantly as a pink bubble of magic and drains the magic meter as long as it's active. Link still flinches when hit hit, but simply takes no damage. It tanks a katana wielding Ganondorf pretty easily, though.

Also seen: Mirror Shield reflecting Light Arrows, and the Master Sword turning Ganondorf to stone.

I see so it drains his magic energy, I assume this would be countered by the bottle of juice chateru romi or however you spell it?

Originally posted by Burning thought
Ah and heres your mistake, you seem to think that me disagreeing with you is "ignoring" you, no I am sorry but thats not how it works. Let me guess, if I simply agreed then I would have answered your argument instead of ignored it? 🙄 silly....

😆 you grasp onto any straw you can hope to hold on to. Bugs bunny, mario and scooby doo are also all shown to bend physics just like Link, their not supposed to be taken seriously and neither is he. His feats are not legit in this case anyway.

No, dumbass. You can disagree all you want. It becomes ignoring when you don't actually defeat what I say and restate what you said in the first place.

Except for the fact that Bugs Bunny and Scooby Doo are on cartoon shows and are meant to be that way. Mario and Zelda games are not. And look at that, again you ignored what I said and stated that Zelda games are packed with toonforce. Where's the evidence? Oh that's right, there isn't any. Have a nice day, dumbass.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Wind Waker Magic Armor. At 1:10.

YouTube video

The guy playing absolutely sucks, but it's the best I can do right now. As you can see, the Magic Armor activates instantly as a pink bubble of magic and drains the magic meter as long as it's active. Link still flinches when hit hit, but simply takes no damage. It tanks a katana wielding Ganondorf pretty easily, though.

Also seen: Mirror Shield reflecting Light Arrows, and the Master Sword turning Ganondorf to stone.

ScreamPaste said he was covered in a shell. He lied 😠

I'm mad TP's Ganondorf fight wasn't as good as this one.

Who said that Bayonetta could break a magic bottle by shooting it? I lol'd hard.
Do you have any idea what that bottle is capable of?

Those are not indications of innate power, its like storyline script. Nothing there that would imply he has greater strength/durability than a man merely that the Gods have chosen him. The light spirit seems to be talking about the Link before the one in that vid and how they are related.

I dont understand the second vid, do you mind pointing out the time that I am supposed to be watching from?

Eh, there are some indications. I thought the "His power resides within you" line was a good one.

For Wind Waker, the beginning is enough. "You have controlled the winds and crossed the seas, and here, near the end of your quest, the power of the gods has been bestowed upon you."

The difference is that while WW Link had to earn the Triforce piece, TP Link started with it.

I see so it drains his magic energy, I assume this would be countered by the bottle of juice chateru romi or however you spell it?

Chateau Romani. And yes, assuming he was able to drink it.

Here's the best Magic Cape I can find.

YouTube video

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
No, dumbass. You can disagree all you want. It becomes ignoring when you don't actually defeat what I say and restate what you said in the first place.

Except for the fact that Bugs Bunny and Scooby Doo are on cartoon shows and are meant to be that way. Mario and Zelda games are not. And look at that, again you ignored what I said and stated that Zelda games are packed with toonforce. Where's the evidence? Oh that's right, there isn't any. Have a nice day, dumbass.

Your argument was not an actual argument. It was simply you saying the same thing again (your being a hypocrite again) that I have rebuked so many times.

yes they are, you think mario and Zelda are meant to be really serious games? 🙄 Sorry but there is evidence, all the same evidence you try and use for Links feats combined with the fact you have to prop his statistics up all the time to make an exception, take way your exceptions (not the games, your fanfictions) and we have a close to toonforce feat.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Who said that Bayonetta could break a magic bottle by shooting it? I lol'd hard.
Do you have any idea what that bottle is capable of?

You do realize Bayonetta's pistols are enhanced with magic, right? Of course not, you barely even know what kind of character she is.