War and Link vs Kratos, Bayonetta and Dante

Started by Burning thought60 pages

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Actually right now you're arguing about nothing. OoT is a good game, millions of people say so. The fact that I am convinced playing it would destroy your toonforce idea for you makes no difference for anything.

Watch it again? You don't have to see the exact end of the rainbow, but you can see enough of it to know that the end of it is nowhere near where Link was found. If I recall correctly, Link just stands up as that scene starts. The giants are in the same spot, Skull Kid doesn't have powers anymore, Tatl and her brother can't lift Link, so nobody went to get him.

The same way you pick and choose which statements from games are hyperbole and which ones aren't right? Link gets an item that gives him the strength to lift that pillar, he doesn't get an item to make light into a solid object.

The rainbow scene ends pretty much as it says "a new day". Anything could have happened up until the new day.

I dont choose, its simply clear what is exaggerated and what is not. He does not get an item to increase his durability, to make up for grip and balance, or to make up for the amount of energy he would need to exert to throw it or add to his weight. His gauntlets tell you what their enhancing clearly, you and Scream add to them to attempt to make your argument valid.

I dont choose, its simply clear what is exaggerated and what is not.
Aw, you're so cute when you think that, having never played a Zelda game, you're an authority on the canon.

Let's go to bed, I'll be gentle. 😮

Originally posted by Burning thought
The rainbow scene ends pretty much as it says "a new day". Anything could have happened up until the new day.

I dont choose, its simply clear what is exaggerated and what is not. He does not get an item to increase his durability, to make up for grip and balance, or to make up for the amount of energy he would need to exert to throw it or add to his weight. His gauntlets tell you what their enhancing clearly, you and Scream add to them to attempt to make your argument valid.

Yeah, totally anything could have happened when everything is in the same spot. You claim to be able to tell which language is clear, yet you can't even see that the "A New Day" screen isn't being serious about a day having passed.

Your concept of clear exaggeration is completely bass ackwards. As I've said before, you have stated that the Pokedex is hyperbole (obvious exaggeration, since you didn't know) when it is language like "Charizard's fire can reach heats of 10,000 degrees Fahrenheit." Hyperbole would be, as I said before, "Charizard's fire is hotter than hell."

That last portion is interesting, because again you are flatout denying everything. The pillar has been lifted via use of the Golden Gauntlets. They make no mention of increasing durability, yet he lifts this pillar without being crushed. So how does this happen? This is where you copout with "toonforce" but the thing is, the entirety of the game contradicts any notion of "toonforce." But of course you cannot see this because you haven't played the game.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Yeah, totally anything could have happened when everything is in the same spot. You claim to be able to tell which language is clear, yet you can't even see that the "A New Day" screen isn't being serious about a day having passed.

Your concept of clear exaggeration is completely bass ackwards. As I've said before, you have stated that the Pokedex is hyperbole (obvious exaggeration, since you didn't know) when it is language like "Charizard's fire can reach heats of 10,000 degrees Fahrenheit." Hyperbole would be, as I said before, "Charizard's fire is hotter than hell."

That last portion is interesting, because again you are flatout denying everything. The pillar has been lifted via use of the Golden Gauntlets. They make no mention of increasing durability, yet he lifts this pillar without being crushed. So how does this happen? This is where you copout with "toonforce" but the thing is, the entirety of the game contradicts any notion of "toonforce." But of course you cannot see this because you haven't played the game.

Why would I see that? You cant even see how LoZ is not meant to be fully serious in general so why would I who has not played not take an exact statement on base value?

Nah not really, and an exact number can still be exaggerated, not that I remember ever argueing against Charizards Pokedex, I usually debate against M2.

No the entirety of the game is based on puzzles, exploration and has no serious interest in physics like God of War or DMC who use a lot of explosive, outrageous powers as part of its gameplay. You change all the games logic to meet with your math and ideas on physics while making hundreds of exceptions from Iron boots tripping 200 ton gorons (lol yeah rite!) to Ganon suddenly gaining thousands of tonnes of strength because of sword locking with a link who also suddenly gets this strength. You make a chain of feats in your fanfiction thats not even stated. A lot of Links enemies are apprently skeletons and wild animals according to Sin and Odin Wrath. Link carries around shields and swords when he has apprently has the combined PSI of 1000 tonnes on him? pfff, you add to the game thats not there and assume the game is logical on top of that. You sort of hypocrite your own argument.

One min the game is logical and so maths is usable yet you apprently still need to assume and add in exceptions based on whats not shown to "keep" it logical yourself.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Why would I see that? You cant even see how LoZ is not meant to be fully serious in general so why would I who has not played not take an exact statement on base value?

Nah not really, and an exact number can still be exaggerated, not that I remember ever argueing against Charizards Pokedex, I usually debate against M2.

No the entirety of the game is based on puzzles, exploration and has no serious interest in physics like God of War or DMC who use a lot of explosive, outrageous powers as part of its gameplay. You change all the games logic to meet with your math and ideas on physics while making hundreds of exceptions from Iron boots tripping 200 ton gorons (lol yeah rite!) to Ganon suddenly gaining thousands of tonnes of strength because of sword locking with a link who also suddenly gets this strength. You make a chain of feats in your fanfiction thats not even stated. A lot of Links enemies are apprently skeletons and wild animals according to Sin and Odin Wrath. Link carries around shields and swords when he has apprently has the combined PSI of 1000 tonnes on him? pfff, you add to the game thats not there and assume the game is logical on top of that. You sort of hypocrite your own argument.

One min the game is logical and so maths is usable yet you apprently still need to [b]assume and add in exceptions based on whats not shown to "keep" it logical yourself. [/B]

Except for the fact that it is completely serious. I've played the game, you're basing your "argument" on snippets and wiki articles. I wonder who's information is more accurate? Inb4hecallsmeabiasedfanboy. After all, that will be his reasoning that his five sentences and thirty seconds of video will override my experience of playing the entire game twice.

The context and language its self contradicts the possibility of hyperbole. Brits are supposed to be excellent when it comes to the English language, so why aren't you?

Okay, so now your argument is that extreme powers and explosions make a game more serious? OoT has an entire nation of diverse peoples overrun by darkness. A castle floating over a lake of lava is collapsed, an entire race of people is to be fed to a dragon, while another is frozen in ice, and another is turned into zombies. Oh look at that, then you go into gameplay. Like I've never seen that coming before.

What? Where did I do any of that?

BT, you are just afraid that if you play a Zelda game, you will become a Link fanboy yourself, aren't you?

The problem is that people who have played the games and love the series are agreeing with him. Other than the people Scream brought in in a span of a day to defend his silliness and MooCow everyone else disagrees with your assesments after experiencing the games first hand.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
The problem is that people who have played the games and love the series are agreeing with him. Other than the people Scream brought in in a span of a day to defend his silliness and MooCow everyone else disagrees with your assesments after experiencing the games first hand.

Translation:
"Don't play the game. Use wiki." 😱

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
The problem is that people who have played the games and love the series are agreeing with him. Other than the people Scream brought in in a span of a day to defend his silliness and MooCow everyone else disagrees with your assesments after experiencing the games first hand.

But you are an FF fanboy, your opinion doesn't matter.

Everyone else will likely accept it with time, the concepts just have to sink in.

Moar pages!

What's funny is that all this fuss is over just ONE of Link's attributes.
He's got a [hyperbole] million [/hyperbole] more ways to win.

Originally posted by LLLLLink What's funny is that all this fuss is over just ONE of Link's attributes.
He's got a [hyperbole] million [/hyperbole] more ways to win.

I lol'd. 👆

And this is very true. But surprise surprise, it's mostly gone ignored.

Sadly Link isn't soloing...

War isn't getting enough credit, agreed.

Why do you always steal the show, Link?!

A composite Link will solo. And that is what we have here, a composite Link.

Composite Link is too goodz for this forum.

Sorry Moo, but even years from now it's still just going to be you and Scream'd posse who think Link is anywhere near your fanfic version. There's a reason why in all of the old Link vs Blank threads he never convinced anybody, just made socks or brought in fanboys so it wasn't so one sided.

And there is no such thing as a composite Link, if that's the case Sephiroth get's Ultimecia's time compression, Exdeath's Void, Kefka's magic, etc because they're all FF antagonists. Pick a Link and stick with him.

Actually, I believe composite Link was granted for this thread. But you wouldn't have known that, since you didn't actually read it. None of you ever do.

Ignorance is no excuse for stupidity.
Link is an incarnation. A force of good that is born by fate to combat the evil in Hyrule. Therefore, Composite Link.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
A composite Link will solo. And that is what we have here, a composite Link.
I sadly have to disagree as Dante now has all items Accessible meaning he can become invinicble with Sparda/Majin unlimited and move a relevestic speeds. that and not counting the fact he can make Doppelgangers of Majin/Sparda forms.

Also He has teammates that trop Link's power.