Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Too bad they don't have reasons like we do.I'm not understanding why Ganondorf would lie, or why the developers would intentionally put incorrect information in the game when it doesn't change the outcome at all. Maybe if the information was a big part of the plot and lead Link to do something he shouldn't have, but it isn't. Of course that's an assumption, and those aren't allowed no matter how logical, right?
Falliable isn't a word. Stop using it. The word you want is Fallible. Except Dante's feats are toonforce since he doesn't have a stated reason to be superhuman. Logical assumptions are not allowed BT.
Sorry, no you dont. You have Fallible statements, they have feats, each feat from other vampires validates the feats for all the others because it shows consistency among a single race. Also Kain is not under question for his logic, he never does anything against physics physically.
Because he is not omniscient and he is narrating? hyperbole, because characters dont have to always speak the truth especially when they dont know every possible outcome, your being childish again.
ok....yes he does, he has the Canon stating him superhuman directly, as I said your being childish in a desperate attempt to twist my unblemished logic into your silly little game of taking fallible statemetns as canon.
Links a toon or does toon feats, he has no reason or canon indication and theres no logic for him even doing his feats under physical/magical means within his own universe. Toony forcey.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Sorry, no you dont. You have Fallible statements, they have feats, each feat from other vampires validates the feats for all the others because it shows consistency among a single race. Also Kain is not under question for his logic, he never does anything against physics physically.Because he is not omniscient and he is narrating? hyperbole, because characters dont have to always speak the truth especially when they dont know every possible outcome, your being childish again.
ok....yes he does, he has the Canon stating him superhuman directly, as I said your being childish in a desperate attempt to twist my unblemished logic into your silly little game of taking fallible statemetns as canon.
Links a toon or does toon feats, he has no reason or canon indication and theres no logic for him even doing his feats under physical/magical means within his own universe. Toony forcey.
We have feats, and statements. But you are correct, logical assumptions are not allowed. Thus, team 2 is toonforce.
I'm not being childish, for one. Ganondorf is plenty knowledgeable about everything in Zelda. Being the ruler of an entire nation you tend to be that way. But still, logical conclusions aren't allowed.
What unblemished logic? I'm tiring of this, I've been trying to pound this into your head for the last what is it now, 6 pages? Just make a decision.
He isn't a toon. But the only reason he does toonfeats is because logical conclusions and ingame statements aren't allowed anymore.
I have a theory. BT is secretly on our side, and is just ensuring that we have all our bases covered. It's just that our arguments are so ironclad he's had to resort to ridiculous stretches to try and make sure we have those bases covered, too. And we do. That's why his arguments make so little sense.
Thanks BT.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
We have feats, and statements. But you are correct, logical assumptions are not allowed. Thus, team 2 is toonforce.I'm not being childish, for one. Ganondorf is plenty knowledgeable about everything in Zelda. Being the ruler of an entire nation you tend to be that way. But still, logical conclusions aren't allowed.
What unblemished logic? I'm tiring of this, I've been trying to pound this into your head for the last what is it now, 6 pages? Just make a decision.
He isn't a toon. But the only reason he does toonfeats is because logical conclusions and ingame statements aren't allowed anymore.
Ok your just ignored my argument and continued spamming nonsense, I think ill just ignore you again, your throwing a tantrum but you started out this argument ok, your getting there.
And btw logical conclusions are useful, their just not logical in this case, their desperate fanon. Their allowed, their just not immune to the fatal flaw of ignorence which is something youve spent a lot of time with.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I have a theory. BT is secretly on our side, and is just ensuring that we have all our bases covered. It's just that our arguments are so ironclad he's had to resort to ridiculous stretches to try and make sure we have those bases covered, too. And we do. That's why his arguments make so little sense.Thanks BT.
You dont have any "canon" basis covered in this argument, the feat itself does not certify the legitimacy in which it was made, all toons have feats, how legitimate physically they are is whats up for an argument.
Link has no developer pointing out his power or exceptions, he has gained "power" but we dont know in what form, more likely gaining more courage than anything, its not the triforce of "moar strength and durabilities plz?!".
Statements are also fallible.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Allow me to translate:
Moo: *Beats BT with his own argument*
BT: *Makes exceptions, claims fanon, squirms*131
No its more like
BT: topples the Link fanon in the thread
Moo and SP: squirm and try and find a crack to push through some fanon
BT: topples it again because its illogical and fallible
Moo: spams the same over and over and lies
Scream: predictably bum licks his side of the thread, getting his tongue caked in Links bile.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Ok your just ignored my argument and continued spamming nonsense, I think ill just ignore you again, your throwing a tantrum but you started out this argument ok, your getting there.And btw logical conclusions are useful, their just not logical in this case, their desperate fanon. Their allowed, their just not immune to the fatal flaw of ignorence which is something youve spent a lot of time with.
Keep calling it nonsense. It's your stuff, so it doesn't affect me at all. And nah, I'm just fine. You'd be amazed how wrong you are about my mood sometimes.
Statements that the Triforce of Courage grants power that Ganondorf misjudged. Couple that with a statement that it was the kind of absolute power that only the wielders of the Triforce have. That's about as far from "fanon" as we can get with logical assumptions. But don't worry, I'll be fair in this argument, someone has to.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Link has no developer pointing out his power or exceptions, he has gained "power" but we dont know in what form, more likely gaining more courage than anything, its not the triforce of "moar strength and durabilities plz?!".Statements are also fallible.
This was directed at Paste, but I think I'll reply to it.
This is exactly what Team 2 has. And do you realize what you're doing here? You are arguing that the game itself is not a source of reliable information about the game. Developers must have intentionally told a lie about the Triforce, right? Well how do we know the DMC developers didn't lie intentionally? Or the ones for LoK or GoW?
The door swings both ways.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Keep calling it nonsense. It's your stuff, so it doesn't affect me at all. And nah, I'm just fine. You'd be amazed how wrong you are about my mood sometimes.Statements that the Triforce of Courage grants power that Ganondorf misjudged. Couple that with a statement that it was the kind of absolute power that only the wielders of the Triforce have. That's about as far from "fanon" as we can get with logical assumptions. But don't worry, I'll be fair in this argument, someone has to.
This was directed at Paste, but I think I'll reply to it.
This is exactly what Team 2 has. And do you realize what you're doing here? You are arguing that the game itself is not a source of reliable information about the game. Developers must have intentionally told a lie about the Triforce, right? Well how do we know the DMC developers didn't lie intentionally? Or the ones for LoK or GoW?
The door swings both ways.
fallible statements dont help you, your logic the opposite of mine, its wrong.
You realise your argument here is that every character speaking in every game is speaking from a position of omniscience right? wrong
Originally posted by Burning thought
fallible statements dont help you, your logic the opposite of mine, its wrong.You realise your argument here is that every character speaking in every game is speaking from a position of omniscience right? [b]wrong
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I could interpret that in a few ways, but I'll just pick the one you wanted and reply like this: The opposite of wrong is right, not more wrong.
That was not my argument. Where did you get that?
Your talking as if the developers are the characters, this is not the case. The developers can write the characters as wrong, you claiming otherwise is saying they all have omniscience. Hence why characters are fallible and your statements are useless.
Go and find a developer or non fallible reason for Link to have superhuman strength/durability then get back to me.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Your talking as if the developers are the characters, this is not the case. The developers can write the characters as wrong, you claiming otherwise is saying they all have omniscience. Hence why characters are fallible and your statements are useless.Go and find a developer or non fallible reason for Link to have superhuman strength/durability then get back to me.
I know this is an assumption and those aren't allowed, but there is no conceivable reason for Ganondorf to have lied once, let alone numerous times. I've never claimed that the developers can't write characters wrong, so don't say I've said something I haven't.
You can do the same for Team 2. 👆