Originally posted by chomperx9
i said 1st she makes a tornado as well as a hurricane 100 x worse than katrina but no bobby can control weather to looks like.bash her head with a piece of ice ? she can fly away easy if he tries to throw anything at her
Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
Hurricanes? So? Also, I didn't say anything about throwing.
....EPIC
Originally posted by tideoftimethats the bobby i know. i grew up reading silver age x-men. i dont keep up with current x-men series anymore.
I am truly at a loss here; why is this even a debate? Storm may have greater versatility in power (as she can create energy forms Bobby can't), but his power is a whole dimension different and greater than her's. Barring PIS/CIS, Bobby wins at least 9/10... anyone who thinks otherwise must still think this is the Bobby of 25+ years ago...*Sigh*
Originally posted by chomperx9
thats the bobby i know. i grew up reading silver age x-men. i dont keep up with current x-men series anymore.
Well, to be fair, shouldn't you either:
-Keep up with the characters being used in threads.
-Specify a specific era/incarnation of a character.
-At least be willing to learn what multiple posters are telling and showing you?
Originally posted by JakeTheBankit just sounded like he gets a little to over rated judging by the previous and past threads ive read of him. some characters on here you gotta admit get over rated and to underestimated. magneto always gets underestimated and people forget he can destroy the earth in a sec if he wanted to.
Well, to be fair, shouldn't you either:-Keep up with the characters being used in threads.
-Specify a specific era/incarnation of a character.
-At least be willing to learn what multiple posters are telling and showing you?
Originally posted by chomperx9
it just sounded like he gets a little to over rated judging by the previous and past threads ive read of him. some characters on here you gotta admit get over rated and to underestimated. magneto always gets underestimated and people forget he can destroy the earth in a sec if he wanted to.
That's the downside to debating characters. You have to be able to sift through the hype and speculative BS while at the sametime acknowledging their feats and what they've been shown to do on panel. I don't think Mags is underrated here, though; he gets the proper amount of respect he deserves.
Originally posted by chomperx9
it just sounded like he gets a little to over rated judging by the previous and past threads ive read of him. some characters on here you gotta admit get over rated and to underestimated. magneto always gets underestimated and people forget he can destroy the earth in a sec if he wanted to.
Bobby is an omega-level mutant -- his power is largely limited only by his mindset/personality (i.e. he's usually a nice guy, and tends to "play nice"😉. But in a forum battle, if you think of Bobby, think Magneto, or Xavier (in there respective areas of influence); being an omega level mutant, Bobby can hand out an a$$-whooping the likes of which most mutants (including even Storm) can't properly conceptualize. Magneto can (with extreme effort) disrupt the magnetic fields of the earth (though not in his current incarnation in comics); Bobby could send the entire planet into another ice-age, given time and impetus. Same relative expressions of power, just via different "special effects".
Originally posted by carver9
You said bobby cant be koed and is this better for ya none comic reader?http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/CATMANEXE/iceman/hultu/09-11-090123.jpg
Iceman would start off in human form and get koed. Otherwise he gets bfred.
Originally posted by h1a8
Iceman would start off in human form and get koed. Otherwise he gets bfred.
LOL, again, know about your characters. I'm not wasting my time owning you. I can easily show you Iceman taking an attack from sunspot that leveled a building, then he reverted to his ice form and was at a 100% but I dont want to waste my time because you are well known for not knowing comics.
Originally posted by carver9
LOL, again, know about your characters. I'm not wasting my time owning you. I can easily show you Iceman taking an attack from sunspot that leveled a building, then he reverted to his ice form and was at a 100% but I dont want to waste my time because you are well known for not knowing comics.
Silly you. UNDERSTAND KINDERGARDEN LOGIC!!!
IF Iceman starts in human form (not Ice form) then he gets koed instantly.
IF Iceman starts in Ice form then he gets bfred.
What is so hard about that logic?
Originally posted by Mindset
Both are false.Did you not understand what he just told you?
First of all I don't believe him. Second of all, the majority of Iceman's history points out that he can be koed in human form.
What you don't understand (simple logic really) is that destroying 1 argument when there are actually two on the table doesn't defeat the whole argument.
Iceman can be bfred.
Originally posted by h1a8You mean the majority of his history that happened before he was proficient in using his powers? Great point!
First of all I don't believe him. Second of all, the majority of Iceman's history points out that he can be koed in human form.What you don't understand (simple logic really) is that destroying 1 argument when there are actually two on the table doesn't defeat the whole argument.
Iceman can be bfred.
You didn't have an argument, you had baseless claims. You don't seem to understand what constitutes as an argument.
How will he be bfr?
Man..... I've seen Storm get shot out the by bullet.
Storm can only create a tidal wave if there just happens to be a major river near by.
Storm can lower temperatures I've seen her Freeze out a warehouse chain in secs then shattering it with lightning.
Iceman wins in mist form.
Although I am unsure as to how effective he is in mist form compared to solid form.......otherwise he will always be in mist form!!!!
Storm wins. Storm flyes to sky and conjures few bolts and bobby is unconcious. I do not care what potential bobby has (freezing abstract, turning into pool of water) when he has been taken down by regular punches, gun blasts and such.
I do not see why storm could not fly away and blast him. Unless it is hand to hand close combat then storm is popcicle.
Why is bobby considered to be as strong as phoenix, X-Man, Magneto and Legion when he has no feats.
