Tidus Vs. Vaan

Ok... I wanted to create a new topic, this is the first one since I'm new here. This is Tidus Vs. Vaan. Who would win?

Well... After playing both games (Final Fantasy X and Final Fantasy XII)
I will begin analyzing the beginning of each one.

Tidus: Never wielded a sword before FFX, meaning that never had any training or experiences in battle before reaching Spira.

Vaan: Was already showing swords skills before of the beginning of the game when we see him killing monsters in the sewers. We don't exactly know from when he began wielding a sword though. He surely has no special training but he was training by himself.

Both 17 years old at the begginig of their games.

(Sorry my bad English) Well, I think Vaan would win. Give me your opinion.

Tidus is a highly trained athlete with above average sword skill. Vaan can... I don't know, accessorize better? Tidus takes it handily.

Well Vaan could just summon Zodiark and obliterate Tidus. However since Tidus can break the Hp and Damage limits, he would kind of oneshot Vaan. I don't know who wins but Tidus has more backing him up so far.

Just for kicks thought I say Vaan would win because he actually exists. 😂

A highly trained athlete to play Blitzball. That doesn't have relevance if we're talking about a fight.

Vaan can... I don't know, accessorize better?

What are you talking about? You can't use Gameplay here.

I mean accessorize the fashion sense. Vaan is better at picking out purses than Tidus.

Uh... Ah, I see.

Well, seeing the current facts, Tidus is inexperienced with swords at the beginning. Vaan, on the other hand, was already showing swords feats. For now Vaan takes this.

Vann had no physical training, he's just a wimp who liked to play with swords. Tidus, on the other hand, was a hardened athlete with a natural talent for using a blade. Just because he hadn't picked one up doesn't mean he didn't get better than Vann real quick.

This is like pitting John Elway with a knack for swordplay against a scrawny basement dweller who thinks he cools because he collects knives.

Vann had no physical training

You have totally no evidence to prove that. Vaan have a good musculature, it seems he had physical training. Probably he has spent years killing monsters in the sewers training by himself. No one knows, but it is very likely.

Tidus, on the other hand, was a hardened athlete with a natural talent for using a blade.

Who cares if he's an athlete? It's like giving a sword to a Football Player and putting it to fight against someone who has already training and experience killing monsters. Talking about talent, I think both are talented.

Vaan has all the musculature of Adam Lambert. And the training of an athlete makes Tidus stronger physically, which is why you never want to get in a fight with an NFL linebacker. Tidus didn't have training before FF X, but by the end of it he's incredibly skilled, showing that he had latent talent with the weapon.

In my opinion, Tidus being stronger and a naturally talented swordsman gives him the win. He's not Squall, Cloud or Cecil, but he's not bad either.

Vaan has all the musculature of Adam Lambert

Uh... Yeah, sure. Tidus has the musculature of Meg Ryan... Seriously, seeing at both characters, they have the same amount of musculature, don't deny this.

the training of an athlete makes Tidus stronger physically, which is why you never want to get in a fight with an NFL linebacker.

Very good reasoning. BUT... If both were about to fight without weapons, Vaan owns Tidus, hands down. Tidus had sport training, he has built his body as any athlete would do, but that doesn't mean he would win in a sword fight. Vaan had to fight bare hand against three Seeq guys and won, if one of those fat guys would hit you in the face you would lose consciousness.

Tidus didn't have training before FF X, but by the end of it he's incredibly skilled, showing that he had latent talent with the weapon.

But you are comparing Tidus after Final Fantasy X here. Vaan is much stronger in Revenant Wings, he's an Sky Pirate and also a very talented swordsman as well. I'm seeing how they began... Vaan as far as I know started with more experience than Tidus, he would win.

In my opinion, Tidus being stronger and a naturally talented swordsman gives him the win. He's not Squall, Cloud or Cecil, but he's not bad either

I've realized that many people hates Vaan, but we don't have to underestimate him, I don't like him much as character, but he's indeed a good fighter. I have proved how Vaan is also talented.

Vaan can make fireballs and whirlwinds..... or not 🙁

His Quickenings are very powerful.

Vaan can summon a universe destroying esper...sort of. I want to know which Vaan are we using anyway. Cause if its the one in Revenant Wings than he wins.

However Tidus would kill Vaan if you were to compare game mechanics.

We're using the Vaan from Final Fantasy XII. I am putting it in pair with Tidus since both are similar, they're both 17 years old and both began with not much training with swords, though Vaan have the upper hand in this for various reasons I have explained before.
Besides, if we count the Quickenings and Espers, Tidus is owned by a long shot. Vaan is a very strong character, hated by most of the fans and very underestimated. He lacks personality in Final Fantasy XII, but he explains that he's just following Ashe to find his own answers and purposes, meaning that he's not the main focus on the story, let's say Vaan is just the second protagonist, Ashe is the true one. In Revenant Wings, his personality changes, he's like the leader and yes, he's stronger.

If we talk about Gameplay Tidus would kill Vaan with one hit.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
I mean accessorize the fashion sense. Vaan is better at picking out purses than Tidus.

And Tidus came first, hence Vaan is a rip-off...and loses the fight anyway. Also I don't think Vaan looks fully human. He most likely looks like one of those human animal hybrids you see in MMORPG's or Hyrulians from LoZ.

Tidus.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Tidus.

Why?

He looks older, lol.

I'm mostly educated about FF7. The rest, I have no idea unless I ask someone.

Ah, ok.

I've never played a FF game, but I know a lot about 7 from ACC, and my friend explaining the ENTIRE story in detail for hours. That, and arguing with him about Link vs Cloud. That's how I learned all of their skills and lore.