The Thanos Imperative!

Started by Power Cosmic II40 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
Drax was designed to best him but the writer chose to do so in a fashion in which his back was turned and he wasn't fighting back so there was never anything pointing to Thanos being unable to stop him. Drax was simply in the right place in the right time under the right circumstances. Like I said had the writer chose to have Thanos trying his best to best him and been unable to you'd have a point but since he wasn't you have nothing. Context, it's everything. People like yourself don't care about the context because you're biased not like me.

I never said Thanos would win in this tale my point was he was a huge game changed in this story which you cannot ever take away. I mean you aren't even intelligent enough to keep up with my point and want to switch this into a vs. argument. You lost a ways back.

You can't change the fact T and A were sent by Thanos so you can't say what would have happened and be a hypocrite in your very own post as Thanos will always send them after that cosmic loser Galactus. I mean isn 't herc just slapping G around like nothing. The guy loses with so much power I question his intelligence because he always finds ways to lose. I will use your own points against you with your own logic but at the en dof the day my point still stands Thanos is a game changer like always.

This is incredibly comical, I'm unhappy that work has kept me away for so long as I missed out on this comedy. Yes you are using my own points against me...points which have dismantled your position and have nothing to do with my own

I never said Thanos would win in this tale my point was he was a huge game changed in this story which you cannot ever take away. I mean you aren't even intelligent enough to keep up with my point and want to switch this into a vs. argument. You lost a ways back.

LOL. How many times did I tell you not to drag this down to a vs. argument, yet you regurgitate what I've been instructing you to do when it has no relevance to my point. Yes, imitation is the best form of flattery but you need to learn some tact, which you lack as you've been blundering and stumbling in this discussion so far; I will have to redouble my efforts to rehabilitate your logic. It flops like a woman's tampon in the toilet at the moment. Intelligence, my son, is clearly lacking in someone's capacity but never let it be known that you lost so long ago that you have nothing to resort to but claiming someone lacks the intelligence to agree with your inane and incompetent conclusions. I mean your whole post had nothing of substance except for attacking me LOL. Keep telling yourself you've won. At this point we both know you're keeping this up just to save face and so you don't shatter the false security and confidence you have in yourself.

...T&A were "sent" by Thanos? Did you even read Annihilation? Thanos was shit out of luck when he discovered the Beyonder was dead except he JUST so happened to run into T&A in the same jail facility, who JUST so happened to have a vendetta against Galactus, and who were ALREADY seeking Galactus even before Thanos ran into them. That, my meek disciple, is the definition of "the right place at the right time with the right people." Drax had already the intent to kill Thanos and was rushing to him the entire issue. He breached Thanos shields and Schmidt, whose word carries more volume than yours ever will, stated that the whole scene was designed to show Drax as being able to adapt and take down Thanos with unrelenting, unstoppable fashion (hence the silver bullet). The fact that Drax ripped through his shields, shields which helped him survive Odin and required Galactus to 2nd guess how much energy he'd actually have to expend, where breached in seconds by Drax's bare hands and finger-nails, serves testament to Schmidt's remark that Drax was essentially the plot device to take Thanos down by issue's end. Context matters in a versus debate, but your street-level view still ignores the fact that Schmidt and Giffen never, ever, ever, stated that Thanos would die by being "at the wrong place at the wrong time." They stated that Drax was engineered to kill him and that Drax would not fail. That is the plot and story, which dominate the circumstances. This is like you trying to argue that if Superman had sun-dipped in preparation for Doomsday, then Doomsday would have been defeated. No! Doomsday will ALWAYS kill Superman because the entire story was building up to that point. Now go ahead and regurgitate that I'm trying to bring this down to a vs. forum level. Go ahead. You'll make as much sense at the brown logic which still litters this thread, all excreted by you.

And for Nihilist, and whoever else questions the stuff I'm saying Schmidt wrote:

Originally posted by Andy Schmidt
It's pretty simple, really. Drax has other powers that precent Thanos' natural Eternal-atom-control thing from working when he's around. Remember, Drax was created to kill Thanos. He probably couldn't beat Thor in a fight, heck, he'd have a tough time beating Wolverine perhaps, but Thanos he can kill.

Drax is essentially the right tool for the job. Heck, Superman couldn't kill Thanos--Galactus can't kill Thanos, can barely hurt him. But Drax CAN KILL him. That's what he was designed to do.

As for one panel, it took Drax the whole darn issue to get there. It took him several pages in the same room to get through the force field and such to get to Thanos. I personally think one great splash page is way more effective than 25 pages of the two of them beating each other up would have been. That's a matter of taste and we'll just disagree, I suppose.

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=3973564&postcount=1908

Of course, there are more posts from him regarding this issue.

/debate.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
This is incredibly comical, I'm unhappy that work has kept me away for so long as I missed out on this comedy. Yes you are using my own points against me...points which have dismantled your position and have nothing to do with my own

LOL. How many times did I tell you not to drag this down to a vs. argument, yet you regurgitate what I've been instructing you to do when it has no relevance to my point. Yes, imitation is the best form of flattery but you need to learn some tact, which you lack as you've been blundering and stumbling in this discussion so far; I will have to redouble my efforts to rehabilitate your logic. It flops like a woman's tampon in the toilet at the moment. Intelligence, my son, is clearly lacking in someone's capacity but never let it be known that you lost so long ago that you have nothing to resort to but claiming someone lacks the intelligence to agree with your inane and incompetent conclusions. I mean your whole post had nothing of substance except for attacking me LOL. Keep telling yourself you've won. At this point we both know you're keeping this up just to save face and so you don't shatter the false security and confidence you have in yourself.

...T&A were "sent" by Thanos? Did you even read Annihilation? Thanos was shit out of luck when he discovered the Beyonder was dead except he JUST so happened to run into T&A in the same jail facility, who JUST so happened to have a vendetta against Galactus, and who were ALREADY seeking Galactus even before Thanos ran into them. That, my meek disciple, is the definition of "the right place at the right time with the right people." Drax had already the intent to kill Thanos and was rushing to him the entire issue. He breached Thanos shields and Schmidt, whose word carries more volume than yours ever will, stated that the whole scene was designed to show Drax as being able to adapt and take down Thanos with unrelenting, unstoppable fashion (hence the silver bullet). The fact that Drax ripped through his shields, shields which helped him survive Odin and required Galactus to 2nd guess how much energy he'd actually have to expend, where breached in seconds by Drax's bare hands and finger-nails, serves testament to Schmidt's remark that Drax was essentially the plot device to take Thanos down by issue's end. Context matters in a versus debate, but your street-level view still ignores the fact that Schmidt and Giffen never, ever, ever, stated that Thanos would die by being "at the wrong place at the wrong time." They stated that Drax was engineered to kill him and that Drax would not fail. That is the plot and story, which dominate the circumstances. This is like you trying to argue that if Superman had sun-dipped in preparation for Doomsday, then Doomsday would have been defeated. No! Doomsday will ALWAYS kill Superman because the entire story was building up to that point. Now go ahead and regurgitate that I'm trying to bring this down to a vs. forum level. Go ahead. You'll make as much sense at the brown logic which still litters this thread, all excreted by you.

Wrong, you don't know what you are even arguing anymore.

Luck favors the prepared which Thanos always is. he always has a plan in what he does and you can deem it luck or whatever but I guess iyo he's often lucky. In any event it stands and like usual I am right like always. I can't believe you've ducked this thread for over a week.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
And for Nihilist, and whoever else questions the stuff I'm saying Schmidt wrote:

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=3973564&postcount=1908

Of course, there are more posts from him regarding this issue.

/debate.

Yes, and in the manner in which he wrote it it was when he conveniently had his back turned while explaining to Drax he needed to release Galactus because that was more than a pressing concern.

Thanos has since beaten Drax since then with the same powers quite easily while weakened so in the grand scheme of things the only way Drax can beat Thanos is when his back is turned. 🙂

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Yup he didn't dominate him he made him is b#$th by pimp slapping his purple butt
He respected him and was unable to defeat him.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
And yet thanos didn't beat him. Thanos was weakened in the beginining.But he regained his strength.
Thanos didn't want to beat Mar-vell whereas Odin wanted to beat Thanos. See the difference.

Originally posted by Psycho Doctor
The instance you talked about was when Mantis states Thanos regained too much power to restrain via mindlock. It says nothing about him being close to full power if you read the context of the scan. It just shows that he regained too much power for Mantis, Cosmo and Moondragon to mindlock, thats about it.

Later in Issue 5 they still mention him steadily recovering his power again, more evidence he wasn't near full power when Mantis made the mindlock statement.

It's true that entering the Cancerverse mainly weakened him mentally, but you don't think that would impact his battle capabilities at all? I'm certain it would, just like it'd negatively impact anybody's ability if their mental composure was weakened to the point of inability to stand.

True however Thanos still did nothing he pre-death version couldn't do. I seen must of this aas a walk in the park for someone on thanos's level

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, and in the manner in which he wrote it it was when he conveniently had his back turned while explaining to Drax he needed to release Galactus because that was more than a pressing concern.

Thanos has since beaten Drax since then with the same powers quite easily while weakened so in the grand scheme of things the only way Drax can beat Thanos is when his back is turned. 🙂

I personally think one great splash page is way more effective than 25 pages of the two of them beating each other up would have been.

Which is a diplomatic way of saying to fans that Schmidt told Giffen to not write a drawn out fight scene, only to come to the same conclusion (Thanos' death).

Yup. Read and weep

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
Which is a diplomatic way of saying to fans that Schmidt told Giffen to not write a drawn out fight scene, only to come to the same conclusion (Thanos' death).

Yup. Read and weep

Yes, and the context within the scene was quite clear. Back turned with thanos anti powers meant Thanos died. Context.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He respected him and was unable to defeat him.

Thanos didn't want to beat Mar-vell whereas Odin wanted to beat Thanos. See the difference.

He didn't defeat mar-vell.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
He didn't defeat mar-vell.
Because he didn't want to. I just said that but showed he could easily manhandle him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because he didn't want to. I just said that but showed he could easily manhandle him.
By hitting him?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
By hitting him?
Choking him and having him at his mercy. I mean you ask the same questions all the time you need to just concede.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Choking him and having him at his mercy. I mean you ask the same questions all the time you need to just concede.
Why concede?You haven't proven anything?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Why concede?You haven't proven anything?
Yes, I have I proved Thanos manhandled his opponent and didn't defeat him only because he had a plan to defeat an entire universe including him.

I like how Andy said Galactus can't kill THanos he can BARELY HURT HIM... I like the how this man thinks 👆

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I like how Andy said Galactus can't kill THanos he can BARELY HURT HIM... I like the how this man thinks 👆
Yeah, it's hilarious a huge Galactus fan quoted a man who stated Galactus can barely hurt Thanos. He's all for these comments being valid which is simply amusing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, I have I proved Thanos manhandled his opponent and didn't defeat him only because he had a plan to defeat an entire universe including him.
And you have no proof he would have defeated him.

Mar-vell has completely owned a team of 5 top tiers and Ronan.Thanos has no feats like that.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
And you have no proof he would have defeated him.

Mar-vell has completely owned a team of 5 top tiers and Ronan.Thanos has no feats like that.

Common sense and the fact he had him completely at his mercy when he decided to let him go to trick him.

Thanos owned the guy who owned a team making him a complete bad ass.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Common sense and the fact he had him completely at his mercy when he decided to let him go to trick him.

Thanos owned the guy who owned a team making him a complete bad ass.

No.No having mercy was happening.He hit him twice.End.

He owned no guy who owned a team.And even if he did thats ABC logic and doesn't work.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No.No having mercy was happening.He hit him twice.End.

He owned no guy who owned a team.And even if he did thats ABC logic and doesn't work.

The amount of times you hit your opponent is irrelevant we look at how he took the blows and if he had an answer for them. He was at Thanos' mercy.

Thanos could also own the same team and easily.