Re: KMC Standards You'd like to Destroy
Originally posted by PlacidityOk my first little rant:
One thing I really dislike is the notion is that Spider-man always loses to Martial Artists - even peak human ones. The guy takes regular blows from class 10-ton+ enemies. A peak human blow isn't going to affect him in a [b]PIS-less battle
, unless possibly if it was a nerve strike. Also MA was developed for humans, it really wouldn't take advantage of Spider-mans other abilities, so Spider-man's style is not "bad" at all, its just the most effective way of fighting for his powerset. [/B]
Agreed for the most part-however I reckon If Spiderman was proficient at martial arts when he 1st got his powers, he would be a better fighter.
1) Supes doesn`t have a tiny microscipic snowflake`s chanse in the deepest hottest burning pits of hell of taking down Thanos or Galactus.. I wish people would stop making such threads or at least that the mods could close them.
2) Apocalypse and Magneto are examples of characters that get no respect, in many cases because people don`t know their full powerset or general history. A little knowledge is good before making a statement, and a visit to the respect thread a good way to get it.
3) VS threads often degenerate into a discussion about who can sucker punch / zap the other before defenses are raised. I think it should be asumed any defense that is near-instant should be concidered to be in place as the match starts.
Re: KMC Standards You'd like to Destroy
Originally posted by Placidity
Ok my first little rant:One thing I really dislike is the notion is that Spider-man always loses to Martial Artists - even peak human ones. The guy takes regular blows from class 10-ton+ enemies. A peak human blow isn't going to affect him in a [b]PIS-less battle
, unless possibly if it was a nerve strike. Also MA was developed for humans, it really wouldn't take advantage of Spider-mans other abilities, so Spider-man's style is not "bad" at all, its just the most effective way of fighting for his powerset. [/B]
In comics Ma is pretty much a superpower and practicioners are able to affect very durable opponents.
Tons of super powered beings in comics practice ma, spidey could find proper training if he took the time. He is not THAT special. Gamora for instance is "the deadliest woman in the universe" more because of her skills than her stats.
Yea, Gamora's, what, class 15? 25? Yet she regularly fought class 100s.
Originally posted by Deadline
Punisher beats DD h2h, period. I'll really deal with that when i've finished my thread.
... DD can go HtH with Shang Chi and Iron Fist and Elektra on good terms, three of the best in Marvel. That'll be an interesting thread.
Originally posted by Q99
Yea, Gamora's, what, class 15? 25? Yet she regularly fought class 100s.... DD can go HtH with Shang Chi and Iron Fist and Elektra on good terms, three of the best in Marvel. That'll be an interesting thread.
Thats ABC logic if you look at all their fights its quite even. Also Dark Reign Punisher is alot tougher.
Originally posted by Deadline
Thats ABC logic if you look at all their fights its quite even.
I'm not sure it's ABC logic so much as establishing a general level. DD performs well in HtH against HtH foes of all sort.
Like I said, I'd like to see that thread. Even if Punisher's stronger, I don't think it necessarily means he'll be able to beat Matt.
Originally posted by Q99
I'm not sure it's ABC logic so much as establishing a general level. DD performs well in HtH against HtH foes of all sort.
Its is because in most of the h2h fights Punisher does well against DD. So if DD can stalemate Shang Chi its irrelevant.
Originally posted by Q99
Like I said, I'd like to see that thread. Even if Punisher's stronger, I don't think it necessarily means he'll be able to beat Matt.
Yeah no point in getting into it right now, especially when im going to have a field day on the DD vs Punisher section on the respect thread.