Thor vs. Superman: How close (or far) apart are they?

Originally posted by Blanket
"Don't mind me, I'm just trolling by"

Originally posted by Allankles
I just mentioned a list of guys above skyfather, and Odin level translates to skyfather. Dominus and Mageddon both of them are abstracts, above skyfathers. Mageddon was an abstract sentient weapon made by the old gods, and Dominus was transformed into an abstract.

Dominus also had multiple chances to kill Superman and only defeated him by changing his brain waves not matching him power for power.

i wish i had the scan where thor is pounding a guy into submission and is screaming that his fist are the thunder and lightning and having energy discharge with each blow and thunder crackling...

Originally posted by h1a8
Ok, Thor can control weather and such without his hammer.

But without more speed he loses everytime to Superman.

Originally posted by Blanket
That is not what this thread is about, and you just proved why you shouldn't be posting here.

where should he post then blanket? 😮

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
where should he post then blanket? 😮

http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss225/OdinBorson/Thor%20Feats/Hammerbreaking.jpg

http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss225/OdinBorson/Thor%20Feats/Hammerbreaking2.jpg

http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss225/OdinBorson/Thor%20Feats/Mjolnirshattered.jpg

^ This is from Thor, volume 2, issue 80. Mjolnir is shattered after being impacted with various other Mjolnir-based hammers. It remains this way for the rest of the arc, until Thor tells Surtur to repair Mjolnir (for its symbolism, not that he truly needed it as he was empowered by the OF and Runes).

http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss225/OdinBorson/Thor%20Feats/Godpowers.jpg

^ Issue 82, volume 2. Here you plainly see Thor using his powers as he gripped Geirroodur, king of the trolls in a full nelson. Note he's not actively using Mjolnir, which is still damaged.

http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss225/OdinBorson/Thor%20Feats/Callsrain.jpg

^ Same issue, Thor summons rain from above, again without Mjolnir.

http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss225/OdinBorson/Thor%20Feats/GodblastwithoutMjolnir.jpg

^ Still same issue, here Thor specifically cites his godly power as his own and without Mjolnir, blasts the shit out of Durok.

http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss225/OdinBorson/Thor%20Feats/WithoutOdinforce.jpg

^Issue 83, volume 2, Thor pointedly states he no longer possesses the Odinpower.

So, yeah, Thor doesn't need Mjolnir to use his own powers, and he can do so all without the OF.

Holy crap, my brain cells melted reading the last three pages.

facepalm

Quickly flipping through the last few pages we need scans of Thor:

Flying without Mjolnir?

Thor does so here.

He does so once again.

He can hover in one place (His done so more than once by the way.).

Here Thor flies from Asgard to Earth in moments by taking the long route, and Asgard is as far as things get if you don't take the rainbow bridge as I understand it.

Check (I can post more, if I need to.).

We need scans of Thor using other abilities without Mjolnir?
Scroll down to the 13th post or so.

Check.

Can we all agree that h1 doesn't know what the hell he is talking about?

Originally posted by Harbinger
Holy crap, my brain cells melted reading the last three pages.

You mean both?

biscuits

Kiddin.

Thor is a great character but, in my personal opinion, Superman will always be the better and more powerful hero. It's going to take a different marvel hero to beat Superman. It seems to me that some people are always going out of their way to try and prove Supes is just another average or slightly more than average cosmic level comic book character, like a Terrax....
I've not really liked Superman since he came back from the dead but I begrudgingly admit he is the greatest hero in comics up till this point. There are some great anti-hero's to be fair but when everything is on the line Supes is the person that saves the day.
Sentry is Marvels attempt to create a new era for a great hero (hence the first sentry - not to be confused with century 😉 - comic coming out in 2000). Thor has a case to be second until Marvel makes sentry its top dog. my 2 pennies.

I always thought it was due to Thor's laughable means of transport. I guess Thor just wasn't strong enough.

^ that was weak.

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how did this thread turn into a defense of thor's powers minus mjolnir?

ironically, the hammer can bfr superman, not superman getting rid of the hammer.

Originally posted by Spire

I always thought it was due to Thor's laughable means of transport. I guess Thor just wasn't strong enough.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Thor tows the small island, Hydrobase, into New York harbor, from Avengers #301:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorStrength38Avengers301.jpg

Nah uh!

All you need is one instance of something(even if misinterpreted) and it overrides a characters complete history!

Just like Thor flying without his hammer.

How does that exact scan prove anything in regards to Thor's strength? Because he let Iron Man do the lifting? I can look up the issue since I don't remember the scene before that if it's relevant.

Heh. Thor flying without Mjolnir is not a one time instance.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How does that exact scan prove anything in regards to Thor's strength? Because he let Iron Man do the lifting? I can look up the issue since I don't remember the scene before that if it's relevant.

Heh. Thor flying without Mjolnir is not a one time instance.

Yeah, I thought about that too when I read it. I dismissed it though seeing as how it took hours and was highly unlikely because Thor could lift it himself and it was just a display of his awkward means of flight.

Seeing as how your scans most likely show Thor either levitating, riding winds, leaping, or flat out errors - I now know for certain Thor can fly without Mjolnir, and he just wasn't strong enough.

Superman wins 10/10 due to an insane strength advantage.

Originally posted by Blanket
That is not what this thread is about, and you just proved why you shouldn't be posting here.

Childlike argument huh? Ok I can go with it and do it too.

You just proved why you shouldn't be posting here, as my comment implied that Thor and Superman are far apart because of the speed difference and that Thor needs more speed to close the gap.

Originally posted by tideoftime
Very true. I think it's a problem in semantics going on here: Superman's *resistance* to magical attacks is usually very low, but he still possesses his super-endurance/recuperative abilities, as such, which is why there are instances of him tanking powerful magical blasts, and surviving magical attacks that might kill lesser targets. Magic with Superman *does not* equal auto-win; it simply makes the win more likely. To put it another way: in video game terms, his "armor/resistance" against magical attacks is very low, so the damage "points" inflicted are higher than might be expected, but he still has a metric ass-ton of "health points". If people looked back over the decades, that analogy bears out true for the most part.

good frikin post.....

Originally posted by Spire
Yeah, I thought about that too when I read it. I dismissed it though seeing as how it took hours and was highly unlikely because Thor could lift it himself and it was just a display of his awkward means of flight.

Seeing as how your scans most likely show Thor either levitating, riding winds, leaping, or flat out errors - I now know for certain Thor can fly without Mjolnir, and he just wasn't strong enough.

Superman wins 10/10 due to an insane strength advantage.

Originally posted by Spire
Yeah, I thought about that too when I read it. I dismissed it though seeing as how it took hours and was highly unlikely because Thor could lift it himself and it was just a display of his awkward means of flight.

Seeing as how your scans most likely show Thor either levitating, riding winds, leaping, or flat out errors - I now know for certain Thor can fly without Mjolnir, and he just wasn't strong enough.

Superman wins 10/10 due to an insane strength advantage.

facepalm

Where did you see me post Thor riding winds? Flat out errors? The ****? He didn't seem to be leaping in any one of those scans to me. From what I've seen of you, I'd bet that you'd ignore evidence because of your dislike for Thor. True, it's been inconsistent a few times, Thor being able to fly without Mjolnir back in the day, but his done so on different occasions even in the last decade. He even helped Gladiator right an Jet that was upside down into it's proper position with Mjolnir at the side.

facepalm at insane strength advantage.