Thor vs. Superman: How close (or far) apart are they?

Started by carver916 pages

Originally posted by h1a8
Without the hammer he couldn't do that. Doesn't matter where the lightning is coming from.

Why doesn't he have the OF? He was lord of Asgard.

So basically you are saying, no matter how many scans we put up proving our point, you still wont believe it.

I never did this before, this will be the first time but I'm reporting you.

Originally posted by Spire
The only thing Mjolnir gives Thor is atk power, flight, and super friction.

It also gives him
Dimensional travel, transmutation ability, God blast ability, super powerful lightning attacks, ability to block and absorb energy attacks, anti-force blasts, etc.

Originally posted by h1a8
It also gives him
Dimensional travel, transmutation ability, God blast ability, super powerful lightning attacks, ability to block and absorb energy attacks, anti-force blasts, etc.

No it doesnt. Thor channell his godly power THROUGH the hammer.

You have 10 people in here telling you the same exact thing.

Originally posted by carver9
So basically you are saying, no matter how many scans we put up proving our point, you still wont believe it.

I never did this before, this will be the first time but I'm reporting you.

You didn't prove your point. The scans showed Thor with the hammer except the first one. The first one is invalid as it is too old.

Also I said, it takes more than one instance to prove something. You only showed one instance where Thor doesn't have the hammer shooting lightning.

Lastly, my initial claim was that Thor can't fly without the hammer.

I can possess a magical ring which makes me emit lightning from my body. That doesn't mean I can do it without the ring.

Originally posted by carver9
No it doesnt. Thor channell his godly power THROUGH the hammer.

You have 10 people in here telling you the same exact thing.

I know this but without the hammer he cannot emit the Godblast.

Originally posted by h1a8
Without the hammer he couldn't do that. Doesn't matter where the lightning is coming from.

Why doesn't he have the OF? He was lord of Asgard.

It's obvious from these questions you haven't read much Thor, and I'm being pretty nice about it.

Mjolnir, despite its awesome power, is just a tool. Thor and Odin alike say as much. It gives him a greater degree of focus and fine control over the weather WHEN it's actively being used, but no where in his decades of established history has it been stated or alluded to that "Thor must have Mjolnir on his person in order to use his powers as a God of Thunder". Since you're the only who believes as much and flat out deny on panel proof given to you, the burden of proof is on you to find a scan or even anything close to what you're suggesting.

And he doesn't have the OF at that time because he lost his connection to it due to the Reigning Storyline. He regains it along with Rune Magic toward the end of the Ragnarok arc.

Originally posted by h1a8
Without the hammer he couldn't do that. Doesn't matter where the lightning is coming from.

Why doesn't he have the OF? He was lord of Asgard.

"Don't mind me, I'm just trolling by"

Originally posted by h1a8
You didn't prove your point. The scans showed Thor with the hammer except the first one. The first one is invalid as it is too old.

Also I said, it takes more than one instance to prove something. You only showed one instance where Thor doesn't have the hammer shooting lightning.

Lastly, my initial claim was that Thor can't fly without the hammer.

The 1st scan is valid, this isnt Precrisis Thor.

The second scan, you have lightning coming from his body. It cant get any plain and simple as that.

The third scan, his hammer was broken. Read the story. Also read the narriation in the scan. The power comes from him.

Originally posted by carver9
So basically you are saying, no matter how many scans we put up proving our point, you still wont believe it.

I never did this before, this will be the first time but I'm reporting you.

i bn tired of him for a long while i just dont know how to report him and under what rule... 🙁

Originally posted by carver9
The 1st scan is valid, this is Precrisis Thor.

😂

Originally posted by carver9
The 1st scan is valid, this isnt Precrisis Thor.

That made me laugh. Pre-Crisis Thor is pretty badass.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
It's obvious from these questions you haven't read much Thor, and I'm being pretty nice about it.

Mjolnir, despite its awesome power, is just a tool. Thor and Odin alike say as much. It gives him a greater degree of focus and fine control over the weather WHEN it's actively being used, but no where in his decades of established history has it been stated or alluded to that "Thor must have Mjolnir on his person in order to use his powers as a God of Thunder". Since you're the only who believes as much and flat out deny on panel proof given to you, the burden of proof is on you to find a scan or even anything close to what you're suggesting.

And he doesn't have the OF at that time because he lost his connection to it due to the Reigning Storyline. He regains it along with Rune Magic toward the end of the Ragnarok arc.

No one showed Thor controlling the weather without Mjolnir. Am I supposed to believe that regardless? Someone showed Thor emitting lightning from his fists (a 60's comic) and that's it. Other showings had him with his hammer. How am I wrong?

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i bn tired of him for a long while i just dont know how to report him and under what rule... 🙁

He's clearly trolling and I just learned what that mean.

Its a tab on the right in his post that say "report to moderator".

Originally posted by h1a8
No one showed Thor controlling the weather without Mjolnir. Am I supposed to believe that regardless? Someone showed Thor emitting lightning from his fists (a 60's comic) and that's it. Other showings had him with his hammer. How am I wrong?
H1, can you stop posting in the good threads?

Originally posted by carver9
The 1st scan is valid, this isnt Precrisis Thor.

The second scan, you have lightning coming from his body. It cant get any plain and simple as that.

The third scan, his hammer was broken. Read the story. Also read the narriation in the scan. The power comes from him.

Again, I can have a ring that makes lightning come from my body. But that doesn't mean lightning can come from my body without the ring.

The hammer wasn't broken (at least the writer didn't draw it broken). But I'm not doubting the feat, just the fact that Thor had the OF.

Originally posted by h1a8
No one showed Thor controlling the weather without Mjolnir. Am I supposed to believe that regardless? Someone showed Thor emitting lightning from his fists (a 60's comic) and that's it. Other showings had him with his hammer. How am I wrong?

That is a weak argument coming from you, h1, and I think you know as much.

Thor is a God of Asgard. He's the God of Thunder and its his status as such that enables him to control the weather and the like. Mjolnir is his tool/weapon, that when actively used (ie. not just hanging at his side) gives him far greater control over said power. But the power is still his.

That's how you are wrong.

Originally posted by Blanket
H1, can you stop posting in the good threads?

Ok, Thor can control weather and such without his hammer.

But without more speed he loses everytime to Superman.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
That is a weak argument coming from you, h1, and I think you know as much.

Thor is a God of Asgard. He's the God of Thunder and its his status as such that enables him to control the weather and the like. Mjolnir is his tool/weapon, that when actively used (ie. not just hanging at his side) gives him far greater control over said power. But the power is still his.

That's how you are wrong.

I've never seen Thor use weather control without his hammer (except once emitting lightning from his hands). Maybe you are right, but it certainly borders speculation. With that said, Thor's most powerful blasts come only from using his hammer. If Thor can emit a lightning bolt from his hands then he can summon one many many times stronger using his hammer.

Originally posted by h1a8
I've never seen Thor use weather control without his hammer (except once emitting lightning from his hands). Maybe you are right, but it certainly borders speculation. With that said, Thor's most powerful blasts come only from using his hammer. If Thor can emit a lightning bolt from his hands then he can summon one many many times stronger using his hammer.

Ok, now I agree with this since there isnt anything proving otherwise IMO. I dont agree with the weather control thing though. Thor can conjure up storms and lightning without his hammer.

Originally posted by h1a8
I've never seen Thor use weather control without his hammer (except once emitting lightning from his hands). Maybe you are right, but it certainly borders speculation. With that said, Thor's most powerful blasts come only from using his hammer. If Thor can emit a lightning bolt from his hands then he can summon one many many times stronger using his hammer.

When he fought Storm he was hovering and stirring the stormclouds without Mjolnir. He really only needs Mjolnir for fast travel, teleportation, and energy projection/manipulation IIRC.