FrankenCastle vs Sabretooth

Originally posted by SamZED
If Frank becomes slower it must take him time, because imo it didnt look like he was slowing down, if anything his speed performance in this book was better than when he fought those ninjas (dont remember the issue #) and was in his right mind. And Deadpool only healed before Frank's final charge, so while he was getting tossed around the effect was still on, so imo it was pretty fair. As for his options, just use his guns, shoot in the eyes for example, or decapitate like he could have in the book. Id say more like 5/10 for each, imo its close. And ofcourse Deadpool would have to work hard for each of the win. But it also works for Frank because imo if Deadpool puts his mind to it its gonna be very hard for Frank to get his hands on him.

Im pretty sure you've seen these scans but just in case. In both those cases Deadpool doesnt wont to kill anyone so goes "Spider-man" on them.

http://img696.imageshack.us/i/scan0005.png/
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/9979/scan0006.png

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/...dpool180014.png
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/21...dpool180016.png

Unless Frank really gets another upgrade, then its a different story.

definitely not 5/10, if a slow and retarded frankencastle can take out deadpool that easily, when he's in perfect condition and smart he takes it much easier, plus his weapons are still more deadly than deadpools

he stopped the chainsaw with his hydrolic forearm from how it appears and his skin shoulnt be any more durable then when he was alive otherwise he wouldnt have bn able to have stitches and stables holding him together,., 😐

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
he stopped the chainsaw with his hydrolic forearm from how it appears and his skin shoulnt be any more durable then when he was alive otherwise he wouldnt have bn able to have stitches and stables holding him together,., 😐

i still maintain what i said and why are we even talking about DP when this is sabretooth bout..

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i still maintain what i said and why are we even talking about DP when this is sabretooth bout..

DP and sabe are two completely character with different lvl of damage soak and strength.. and frank being able to fight DP in a comic doesnt mean he could in an actual forum fight..

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
DP and sabe are two completely character with different lvl of damage soak and strength.. and frank being able to fight DP in a comic doesnt mean he could in an actual forum fight..

Deadpool wasn't even using his standard wpns or even his high end gear that he pulls out in every other story fight...

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
Deadpool wasn't even using his standard wpns or even his high end gear that he pulls out in every other story fight...

pfff.. those weapons although cool for looks both in the real world and in comics they dont add much or do anything in a comic fight.. like i said DP's uzis should have bn more then enough to end the fight and just to let you know guns and uzi's have different caliber bullets and damage output and even barrel exit velocity so dont try to compare a hand gun to an uzi...

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3213/st3a.png
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/29/st4.png
http://i022.radikal.ru/0910/13/85083ded82e0.jpg

like i said DP's standard tech should have bn more then enough to stop frank.. grenades, c-4 explosions should and would have ended frank if the writers had written DP to his full potential rather then jobbing and losing his weapons in the 1st panel..

http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs39/f/2008/355/3/0/Deadpool_Wallpaper_by_martegodpopo.jpg

Originally posted by Trackz
it takes hold immediately, against hellsgaard (after hellsgaard destoryed his pills) he commented on his slowed reaction time. It happens quick if he doesnt get his pills at the right time. The fact he was grunting like an animal shows how much his brain had deteriorated already.

definitely not 5/10, if a slow and retarded frankencastle can take out deadpool that easily, when he's in perfect condition and smart he takes it much easier, plus his weapons are still more deadly than deadpools

Also Deadpool wasnt at 100% as well, so it makes it more or less even. Not to mention that he didnt use/lost most of his weapons in the very beginning of the fight for PIS reasons and there's no telling how it would've went if he had his granades, uzis etc on him and used them on Frank instead of engaging in cqc. And the thing is - Frankencastle did not take Deadpool out, only tossed him around and injured him (and even that because Deadpool turned this into close quarters combat, again for PIS reasons) but Deadpool did win in the end. Id acept Frank winning the majority but only if Deadpool chooses to make it a closequarters combat again.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
pfff.. those weapons although cool for looks both in the real world and in comics they dont add much or do anything in a comic fight.. like i said DP's uzis should have bn more then enough to end the fight and just to let you know guns and uzi's have different caliber bullets and damage output and even barrel exit velocity so dont try to compare a hand gun to an uzi...

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3213/st3a.png
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/29/st4.png
http://i022.radikal.ru/0910/13/85083ded82e0.jpg

Frankencastle was tanking bullets from Hellsgards great big machine gun.

Hellsgards gun > DPs

Where did Trackz compare an uzi to a hangun didn't he say flamethrower?

Originally posted by Wild Shadow

like i said DP's standard tech should have bn more then enough to stop frank.. grenades, c-4 explosions should and would have ended frank if the writers had written DP to his full potential rather then jobbing and losing his weapons in the 1st panel..

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Wait so DPs gonna strap C4 to Frank then run off? What about the 100s of examples were DP hasn't used grenades?

Like you said? You pretty much ignored what Trackz said. DPs standard gear is usually his sword and maybe a machine pistol.

Originally posted by SamZED
In that case it depends on writers interpretation I guess, because honestly I didnt see any signs of Frank slowing down, just going berserk. I dont believe it was writers intention to show a slower version of Frankencastle, seeing how his speed in the book was more impressive than any other display of it in the past.

Also Deadpool wasnt at 100% as well, so it makes it more or less even. Not to mention that he didnt use/lost most of his weapons in the very beginning of the fight for PIS reasons and there's no telling how it would've went if he had his granades, uzis etc on him and used them on Frank instead of engaging in cqc. And the thing is - Frankencastle did not take Deadpool out, only tossed him around and injured him (and even that because Deadpool turned this into close quarters combat, again for PIS reasons) but Deadpool did win in the end. Id acept Frank winning the majority but only if Deadpool chooses to make it a closequarters combat again.

also deadpool recovered from taking the pills mid-fight, when his voices came back. Deadpool also didn't win, you keep ignoring the fact he was being tossed around by a dumb/slow punisher, who went braindead a while later, that had nothing to do with deadpool, that had to do with the fact he was off his pills from the moment the fight began. Even deadpool didn't want to go up against him again.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
pfff.. those weapons although cool for looks both in the real world and in comics they dont add much or do anything in a comic fight.. like i said DP's uzis should have bn more then enough to end the fight and just to let you know guns and uzi's have different caliber bullets and damage output and even barrel exit velocity so dont try to compare a hand gun to an uzi...

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3213/st3a.png
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/29/st4.png
http://i022.radikal.ru/0910/13/85083ded82e0.jpg

like i said DP's standard tech should have bn more then enough to stop frank.. grenades, c-4 explosions should and would have ended frank if the writers had written DP to his full potential rather then jobbing and losing his weapons in the 1st panel..

http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs39/f/2008/355/3/0/Deadpool_Wallpaper_by_martegodpopo.jpg

frnk has already tanked attacks similar to the one shown above, and you're also forgetting this was an unarmed frank vs. a prepped deadpool, frank wasn't even using his most powerful weaponry.

...i hope you realize that second scan would require prep and has absolutely no relevance to this fight

you call what DP did prep? that is one of the biggest jokes i ever saw if a writer thinks that is DP's prep lvl..

its like he left the house and pulled two things out of his umbrella holder by the door.. this is how he preps for a mission that involves more the fodder but heroes and villains..
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48664/1064237-xf_ann_1_leraje_cps_039_super.jpg

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
you call what DP did prep? that is one of the biggest jokes i ever saw if a writer thinks that is DP's prep lvl..

its like he left the house and pulled two things out of his umbrella holder by the door.. this is how he preps for a mission that involves more the fodder but heroes and villains..
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48664/1064237-xf_ann_1_leraje_cps_039_super.jpg

what evidence do you have to say frank has equal lvl healing factor as wade?

Originally posted by Trackz
no it wasn't, have you seen some of his feats? he was slashng through zombie soldeirs faster than they could react, and he slashed throw a samurai so fast, the samurai thought he missed and attempted to retaliate only to fall apart seconds later.

also deadpool recovered from taking the pills mid-fight, when his voices came back. Deadpool also didn't win, you keep ignoring the fact he was being tossed around by a dumb/slow punisher, who went braindead a while later, that had nothing to do with deadpool, that had to do with the fact he was off his pills from the moment the fight began. Even deadpool didn't want to go up against him again.

Yes, but that happened after he's been tossed all over the place, which might explain him not doing so good and losing his guns in the first place. Again, Frank being slower was not the case, he SHOULD HAVE been slower but the writer simply ignored that fact. Or simply didnt know about it and had Frank fight at his top speed. So there's no point in blaming the pills for Frank's loss. He wouldn't have been any faster in that book if he did eat them.

Deadpool not wanting a rematchg doesnt prove that Deadpool would lose though, its completely within his CIS. He didnt want to fight an upgraded Sabertooth as well, and screamed like a girl (eeep!) when Creed attacked him the first time, and yet when they fought the fight didnt end well for Vic.
Im not ignoring Deadpool being tossed around, I admit Deadpool cant take Frank h2h, its just imo you're making too much of a big deal out of it. He can get tossed around all day long but if he wins at the end, its still a win. And he did win against a berserk Frankencastle. Now if Frank was in his right mind the fight would've went differently, (and no, he wouldn't haven been any faster) the only difference would be - Frank would've been using weapons to his advantage but the same works for Deadpool who didnt use most of his standart equip in that battle for the sake of making the fight more interesting.

lets keep the DP vs frank in the right thread

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=525459&pagenumber=4

Originally posted by SamZED
Now if Frank was in his right mind the fight would've went differently, (and no, he wouldn't haven been any faster)

Its been specfically stated on numerous ocassions FC is slower without his pills.

Originally posted by SamZED
Yes I have, ive read all frankencastle books save 1 maybe. He barely took one of those canonfodder ninjas,

No offence you didn't read it properly he needed his pills again.