Ganondorf Vs Azeroth

Originally posted by Burning thought

Kains a vamp, Dantes a demon, Kratos is a Demigod. They all have one thing in common that Link does not, the exception that comes from them being enhanced by their respective universes innately and physcially in various ways. Link being called the "hero of time!" is not an exception.

Being a vamp, demon, and demigod are not quantifiable feats (I think Screampaste said that already, but whateva).

By that logic, Edward Cullen is automatically a rapemaster.
Being a demigod can be something as insignificant as making sure the wind blows.

Just as Anakin Skywalker was destined to have an insane midichlorian count, so too was Link destined to become the Hero of Time, wielder of the Master Sword and holder of the Triforce of Courage.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Being a vamp, demon, and demigod are not quantifiable feats (I think Screampaste said that already, but whateva).

By that logic, Edward Cullen is automatically a rapemaster.
Being a demigod can be something as insignificant as making sure the wind blows.

Just as Anakin Skywalker was destined to have an insane midichlorian count, so too was Link destined to become the Hero of Time, wielder of the Master Sword and holder of the Triforce of Courage.

They are if you know what a Vamp, Demon and demigod can do, and is physically enhanced by in those unvierses, obviously you dont because youve probably never picked up the games otherwise you wouldnt of said this.

No. God is a spiecies/race in the GoW universe.

Compeltly different but an interesting example, i think midichlorians can alter the way you use the force and how strong you are in it or something like that, being destined to be "hero of time" is a title, midichlorians are not and neither are the physical enhancements Vamps, demons and demigods in their respective universes have.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Okay, BT, I'm gonna just go through your post and correct you.

1. Thieves do not need to be stealthy. People who walk into stores with guns and take things are thieves. They are not stealthy. The Gerudo could just as easily be brigands or highway(wo)men.
2. Link = super human. Calling him a child is a horrible argument and holds no water. This has been mentioned.

Link was not a witness to the triforce splitting. He was busy being sealed away by the sword for seven years. He had no idea he even had the triforce of courage until Zelda told him so near the end of the game.

Above this you keep yelling "TOONFORCE" ecause you hate that Link has feats, but here.

I'll say it again. The iron boots are a LOT heavier than iron.

Now you're going to say "then why are they named that?" to which I'll answer "it sounds cool". And then say the words "Megaton Hammer".

If the name of an item is really that important to what it is, then the megaton hammer weighs a megaton. (1 000 000 metric tonnes.) GJ. I win either way.

Your choices:
1. Accept that the iron boots are heavier than their name implies, and that the Megaton Hammer is probably lighter.
2. Continue to claim that the name states they're iron and thus light, and that the Megaton Hammer is a megaton, and thus insanely freaking heavy.

GJ. You just contradicted yourself. By your own logic, Ryu should be toonforce, but you're illogical hatred of LoZ got in the way of your brain making any sort of logical connection.

Link shows that he is superhuman, therefore he is. Just like Ryu.

OoT. You're wrong, just like the last time you claimed this.

Thus, having the triforce of courage, and being superhuman. G.J.

Then you scream toon force some more. Get a new argument, that doesn't work.
No, it just means you're too dumb to even understand humour.

Straw man. Neme, unlike Link, is a normal human, and steel toed boots aren't the Iron Boots.

The Iron Boots are heavier than iron. OR. The Megaton Hammer weighs a million tonnes. Pick.

Being a vamp, demon, or demigod are not feats. Ryu is biologicly human, and does super human things. You acknowledge it when it's Ryu, but not Link, because you're biased.

Snakes don't have a physical form? durlaugh

Don't make me repeat my self:
"Also, stop trying to speak for Q, or use her to somehow support your arguments when she keeps mentioning she [b]doesn't even read your posts because they're shameful.

She replied to Neme, this means she is reading ours, and if and when she disagrees, she's a big girl who can speak up for herself, and already has done."

Also, you're still screaming toonforce and assuming that power works on non-scourge.

IRRRRONNYYYYYY
link-rape

For the record, the end to Neme's post was a truly epic and manly. Virtues you cannot understand, apparently. [/B]

1. Then why describe them as thieves when their brigands?
2. And argued poorly on your part.

The boots are iron boots, the fact this does not work alongside your math does not matter.

The hammer does not have to weight a megaton to be called the megaton hammer. The hammer neither has the feats or physical properties to be a megaton.

No, Ryu does not just "show it", he has the exception in the form of "chi" or w/e energy he calls upon for his enhancements.

OoT showed Ganon without the trueforce being sealed at the end, and at the beginning before his imprisonment he only just got the ToP.

Its completly relevant.

The rest is yet again, a childish little troll. Now crawl back under your bridge and wait for the debators to get here.

Originally posted by Burning thought
They are if you know what a Vamp, Demon and demigod can do, and is physically enhanced by in those unvierses, obviously you dont because youve probably never picked up the games otherwise you wouldnt of said this.

No. God is a spiecies/race in the GoW universe.

Compeltly different but an interesting example, i think midichlorians can alter the way you use the force and how strong you are in it or something like that, being destined to be "hero of time" is a title, midichlorians are not and neither are the physical enhancements Vamps, demons and demigods in their respective universes have.

You missed the point completely. You claimed that just because a character is classified as a demon, vamp, etc. that it automatically validates their feats and that being the HoT didn't fit along with them.

Kratos's empowerment is a carbon copy of Link's. Both were chosen and empowered by the gods/goddesses. Yet you see Kratos as legal and Link as unquantifiable. It is a mere scenario of bias.

The boots are iron boots, the fact this does not work alongside your math does not matter.

The hammer does not have to weight a megaton to be called the megaton hammer. The hammer neither has the feats or physical properties to be a megaton.

The iron boots have too much weight to be just iron boots. They have too many feats and physical properties showing that they are more than that.

The boots are iron boots, the fact this does not work alongside your math does not matter.

The hammer does not have to weight a megaton to be called the megaton hammer. The hammer neither has the feats or physical properties to be a megaton.

Here you are being a hypocrite. The boots DO have the feats disproving they're just iron, but the name takes precedence. Then the hammer has the name "megaton" but that's irrelevant?

G.J. Nice fail.

No, Ryu does not just "show it", he has the exception in the form of "chi" or w/e energy he calls upon for his enhancements.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
The hammer is a megaton hammer, the fact this doesn't work along side your retarded bias doesn't matter.

The iron boots have too much weight to be just iron boots. They have too many feats and physical properties showing that they are more than that.

Here you are being a hypocrite. The boots DO have the feats disproving they're just iron, but the name takes precedence. Then the hammer has the name "megaton" but that's irrelevant?

G.J. Nice fail.

Triforce of Courage.

Their not showing it at all, your assumptions and illogical math based behind the things the boots counteract is what gives you the idea their heavier, your math or deductions are not canon and are illogical.

Iron boots outlines the metal the boots are made from. Theres nothing else required to quantify what the boots are. The megaton hammer is not shown through feats, or even logic to weigh anything close.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
You missed the point completely. You claimed that just because a character is classified as a demon, vamp, etc. that it automatically validates their feats and that being the HoT didn't fit along with them.

Kratos's empowerment is a carbon copy of Link's. Both were chosen and empowered by the gods/goddesses. Yet you see Kratos as legal and Link as unquantifiable. It is a mere scenario of bias.

Thats because I know what each spiecies can do, what their based on and what their canon depicts them as and outlines. HoT is just a title.

False, Kratos joins the spiecies that is a "god" in his own universe, he began as a Demigod from birth which is outlined in great detail in GoW. Vamps, Demons and Demigods are not just titles like HoT but their entire backstory supports the fact that they have innate powers, magic etc that can bypass physical restrain or empower them physically.

Link does not, hes not empowered by hte Goddesses, he simply has an object that relates to them, a piece of one infact.

Their not showing it at all, your assumptions and illogical math based behind the things the boots counteract is what gives you the idea their heavier, your math or deductions are not canon and are illogical.

Iron boots outlines the metal the boots are made from. Theres nothing else required to quantify what the boots are. The megaton hammer is not shown through feats, or even logic to weigh anything close.

You can't have it both ways, BT.

Your arguments contradict themselves.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Failure.
Quote the math in my post? :eyeroll: Exactly.
LOGIC DICTATES: A massive rock in motion > small amount of iron.
Yet: the boots prevail.
Thus: they are not iron.
Megaton hammer = Megaton hammer.

You can't have it both ways, BT.

Your arguments contradict themselves.

But their not just rocks, their living entities in a fiction.

Not really. The game tells us their iron.

Namewise, but the iron boots are not called the "weigh as much as iron" boots. Everything else contradicts the Megaton hammer as being a megaton in weight.

nah, they just contradict your assumptions.

OMG, fail. Link being chosen as the Hero of Time has nothing to do with him receiving the Triforce of Courage.

Link was chosen to be the HoT and wielder of the Master Sword before the Triforce ever entered the picture.
When the Triforce split, Link received it because he most portrayed the spirit of Courage, not because it was some kind of "perk" of being the Hero of Time. The two traits are unrelated.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
OMG, fail. Link being chosen as the Hero of Time has nothing to do with him receiving the Triforce of Courage.

Link was chosen to be the HoT and wielder of the Master Sword before the Triforce ever entered the picture.
When the Triforce split, Link received it because he most portrayed the spirit of Courage, not because it was some kind of "perk" of being the Hero of Time. The two traits are unrelated.

HoT is just a baseless claim/title. The triforce of courage is the only empowerment from the goddesses he gains hence why I mentioned it. But nice red herring.

But their not just rocks, their living entities in a fiction.

Not really. The game tells us their iron.

Namewise, but the iron boots are not called the "weigh as much as iron" boots.

Everything else contradicts the Megaton hammer as being a megaton in weight.

Originally posted by Burning thought
HoT is just a baseless claim/title. The triforce of courage is the only empowerment from the goddesses he gains hence why I mentioned it. But nice red herring.

No argument can be found in your post. Only 1 lie and 1 obvious information.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
But they're not just boots, they're artifacts in fiction.
The game doesn't tell you it's iron, that's just their name. By your logic, the game tells us that the hammer is a megaton.
Then why do you insist they weigh as much as iron based on their name? :eyeroll:

Everything contradicts the iron boots being light, but you [b]insist on that. Troll. [/B]

False, their "iron boots" in fiction.

no, by my logic the game tells us their iron and theres no reason to think otherwise. The hammer can be lifted by weak entities and has hundreds of physical reasons from it just falling through the ground or pulling Goron/Links arms out of their sockets from trying to lift it. Your using the names of objects, I am using the material of objects.

Because the game tells us their iron. Theres no magic in them by the looks of it either, their just slabs of metal on his feet.

Their not light, their heavy enough to >gorons, its the gorons that are more likely to be weak/light, at least weak or lighr enough to be overpowered by slabs of iron on a guys feet.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
No argument can be found in your post. Only 1 lie and 1 obvious information.

its not an argument, it was a statement.

Originally posted by Burning thought

its not an argument, it was a statement.

A false statement, and therefore, useless refuse.

no, by my logic the game tells us their iron

and theres no reason to think otherwise.

The hammer can be lifted by weak entities

Your using the names of objects,

Because the game tells us their iron. Theres no magic in them by the looks of it either, their just slabs of metal on his feet.

Their not light, their heavy enough to >gorons, its the gorons that are more likely to be weak/light, at least weak or lighr enough to be overpowered by slabs of iron on a guys feet.

I repeat. Troll.

Kinda like the whole lollovelink fanon argument for LoZ.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
False, the game does not say this. That is simply their name.
False. They're heavy enough to stop what amounts to a boulder in motion.
False. We only ever see Link lift the hammer.
No u. You're the one who keeps insisting the game tells us the boots are iron, when it never does. That's their name, and you use this to assume they're iron against all proof otherwise.

No, it does not. Also, you can see magic in something by just looking? haermm Cause, you know, just looking at the mirrorshield, golden gauntlets, master sword, ect, they're all so obviously magical in appearance!

Gorons are giant, super-strong, living rocks who can eat rubies. One of the second hardest substances on earth. 😐 They're not light, they're made of rock, and rock is not light. They're not weak. They can punc hte center ofa massive column out of place despite the massive weight on top of it, not to mention the mass of the section they remove itself. You have no argument.

I repeat. Troll.

"iron" is not a name, its a material. The only time its a name is when its talking specifically about the material itself, but this is not the case, its refering to a material that makes the boots.

Exactly my point, weak entities 😉

Theres no proof to say otherwise.

Theres usually some hint in the appearance of an object that its magic, these boots just look like slabs of iron.

Then it seems to rock must be extremely porous, Gorons themselves are hollow and only a tiny amount of them is rock. or the game is not to be taken seriously for physical feats (most likely considering the consistency of toonforce/illogical nonsense).

They punch a column that could be made out of the same light and hollow material their made from, if not lighter.

Looks like I win again. You're making ridiculous stretches of logic. It's a good thing no one actually thinks you believe the crap you say, or you'd be in an institution somewhere.

The boots are clearly heavy, rock is not light ,and gorons are not hollow. The pillar, even if by some miracle, had a light section in it, still had it's own ridiculous weight on top of that section.

And the boots don't even look like iron, have you ever seen iron? They resemble stainless steel or silver more than iron. And things have to look magical? Nothing else in Zelda looks particularly magical until it does something.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Looks like I win again. You're making ridiculous stretches of logic. It's a good thing no one actually thinks you believe the crap you say, or you'd be in an institution somewhere.

No, I am not assuming or stretching any logic, your the one assuming logic works in LoZ the same way it does in the real world despite the vast numbers of assumptions you need to make on strength and durability on all the weird toon events.

Denile and self praise is so sad 😆 ah well, someone has to make you feel better after your shabby and petty arguments and inadequacy in a debate, but then again..

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Oh, I'm in denial, when all of your points have been nothing but a long drawn out trollfest as a result of your irrational bias against a game you've never played. Nothing you've said makes any sense.

Gorons are apparently light! Names can determine what something is, but only if it suits your argument!

Link's not super human, even though all of his feats say he is!

haermm I accept your concession, but feel free to continue to embarrass yourself.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Oh, I'm in denial, when all of your points have been nothing but a long drawn out trollfest as a result of your irrational bias against a game you've never played. Nothing you've said makes any sense.

Gorons are apparently light! Names can determine what something is, but only if it suits your argument!

Link's not super human, even though all of his feats say he is!

haermm I accept your concession, but feel free to continue to embarrass yourself.

You must be drunk again, most of this post looks like your replying to yourself more so than me.

Ill correct you anyway:

Links feats dont say he is, your math and assumption their all connected to logical physics says he is. The developers dont bring any of this into account and the vast number of toon contradictions like iron>your 200 ton gorons or squeeky WW link doing a "cartoon reaction" to the explosion and squeeking down a castle wall or straining to lift pillars that according to you give him jouls equivalant to aircraft carrier weight , while Ganon smacks his sword with apprent millions of jouls of force yet sends it a few meters. All daft little assumptions that the game does not even hint to. Even one of those things is enough to topple the credability of using math in LoZ, thats ignoring the games lack of canon connection and exception to Link being strong, or the idea that the whole game is based on puzzles that "your" link should be able to just walk through or punch his way through with his ubur strengthz!

Link in actual canon is just a child, the game makes it toony fun for everyone by giving him illogical physics ignoring powah!