Thanos vs. Quasar

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Not many.

Thanos words: "I would retain limitless power, yet not know my enemies' next move".

A few panels later Starfox says: "He truly has dampened his cosmic senses" (just after Hulk and Drax were kicking Thanos' ass).

It's all pretty clear to me.

he did use the other gems to take out the heroes during the fight, but he wasn't aware nor constantly powered by their powers.

and lets not forget when the dude actually went to full power, wasn't just omniscience he gained from that.

Is it so hard to imagine that writers write primarily for dramatic effect, not power level consistency? Thor did well against Thanos because it served the dramatic moment to do so.

Again bringing up one of my favorite characters...Mark Schultz wrote a story in which Darkseid decimates Superman in 3 panels...and then later wrote a story in which Superman beats Darkseid so thoroughly that he has to beg for quarter.

Fabian Nicieza writes a story in which Apocalypse utterly destroys all foes in his path, and then later writes a story in which he's killed dead by Cable with a single shot to the head.

It happens. And, by itself, means nothing.

Gruenwald had a fued with Starlin, because "Infinity Gauntlet" usurped "Cosmos in Collision" (the superior story, in my mind) as the summer cosmic crossover event. That's why Starlin wrote that scene in which Quasar gets his hands blown off, where he's little more than a joke.

DC/Marvel was considered canon at the time of it's publication by Marvel editors. They said as much in the letters pages, and Access appeared a couple of times in Marvel comics as well as DC. Silver Surfer/GL, which lead to All Access, was referenced in a DC comic as well.

And yeah, the Kazar incident is wonky. But it also demonstrates that writers are capable of writing whatever, and that having varying power showings means nothing in regards to intent. Dan Slott had it stated without a doubt that Squirrel Girl defeated Thanos to, tongue and cheek though it was. And he later had an exact duplicate of Thanos, identical in every way, get beat up by She Hulk.

Originally posted by Desaad
Is it so hard to imagine that writers write primarily for dramatic effect, not power level consistency? Thor did well against Thanos because it served the dramatic moment to do so.

Originally posted by Desaad
Again bringing up one of my favorite characters...Mark Schultz wrote a story in which Darkseid decimates Superman in 3 panels...and then later wrote a story in which Superman beats Darkseid so thoroughly that he has to beg for quarter.

Originally posted by Desaad
Gruenwald had a fued with Starlin, because "Infinity Gauntlet" usurped "Cosmos in Collision" (the superior story, in my mind) as the summer cosmic crossover event. That's why Starlin wrote that scene in which Quasar gets his hands blown off, where he's little more than a joke.

Originally posted by Desaad
DC/Marvel was considered canon at the time of it's publication by Marvel editors. They said as much in the letters pages, and Access appeared a couple of times in Marvel comics as well as DC. Silver Surfer/GL, which lead to All Access, was referenced in a DC comic as well.

Originally posted by Desaad
And yeah, the Kazar incident is wonky. But it also demonstrates that writers are capable of writing whatever, and that having varying power showings means nothing in regards to intent. Dan Slott had it stated without a doubt that Squirrel Girl defeated Thanos to, tongue and cheek though it was. And he later had an exact duplicate of Thanos, identical in every way, get beat up by She Hulk.

Seeing as how Thanos could easily take all his blast like he does with every one, or just blast him one good time its Thanos easily lol. Distance is no problem since most think he could just fly around Thanos. The only way he beats him is through BFR like he did that one foe who he quantum jumped with into that place and left him there.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
limitless power = power gem, he even explains it further by saying he'd not be sustaining the other gems aside from that gem (he used different words but it's quite clear).

Yes, he used different words. So different, in fact, that they had a different meaning than what you're trying to ascribe to them.

don't make me put up the scan

Originally posted by Enyalus
I'd like you, KK, to explain to me rationally how you can seriously believe that Quasar is capable of 'putting a construct inside Thanos' skull.'

The same way that Sue Richards as Malice could put a force bubble inside someone's brain and expand it or whatever that trick is.

It's as simple as not needing an unobstructed line of sight to form a construct. The area of 3D space inside an opponent's skull is no intrinsically different from the area of 3D space just outside an opponent's skull. He can conceive of that space, and so he can form a construct there.

Except that Quasar and Sue Richards don't have remotely the same powerset, and Quasar has never done such a thing to an opponent before to prove he could.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Except that Quasar and Sue Richards don't have remotely the same powerset, and Quasar has never done such a thing to an opponent before to prove he could.

So you're denying that he did the very thing he did in the scan we're discussing on the grounds that he's never done it?

center of a black hole > all the nukes mankind or quasar could ever create.

Originally posted by KK the Great
So you're denying that he did the very thing he did in the scan we're discussing on the grounds that he's never done it?

Originally posted by Enyalus
Of course I am. There's nothing in the scan to indicate that he did what you're saying, save for a colloquial expression used by Quasar and probably 50 million other English speakers.

I should probably take this time to finally come straight out and inform you that you're thinking of "right between the eyes." That's the colloquial expression commonly used.

Nobody says "between the ears" to refer to anything other than a person's brain. Nobody in the history of the English language has used "between the ears" to mean hitting someone on either side of the head.

No, I'm pretty sure that wasn't what I was thinking of.

And that's what the art depicts. Quasar's constructs on either side of Thanos' head. Clearly solid. Obviously not going through anything, like his suit.

Originally posted by Enyalus
No, I'm pretty sure that wasn't what I was thinking of.

Then I'm not sure what you could have possibly been thinking of, since "between the ears" is a colloquialism that supports the exact opposite of your stance here.

And that's what the art depicts. Quasar's constructs on either side of Thanos' head. Clearly solid. Obviously not going through anything, like his suit.

Outright nonsense.

The art clearly depicts an explosion centered directly where Thanos's head was. It does not depict a pair of explosions on either side of his head. It plainly, clearly, undeniably, and with support of the text, depicts his head being detonated from the inside.

Where's the scan in question, if I may ask?

It's back on the first page.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
center of a black hole > all the nukes mankind or quasar could ever create.

Originally posted by Enyalus
This is the time we go, "Concession Accepted," Quan.

The only thing that's inane is to think that Quasar stands a snowball's chance in hell against Thanos.

Originally posted by KK the Great
"Masterson Thor hit Thanos a few times, therefore Thanos was lowering his durability."

That is laughably skimpy reasoning even by your standards, quanchi.

By the by, he DID kill most of them with one shot.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos was playing to Death. At any time he could have killed any of these heroes in a variet of ways and if you want to interpret the scene in the correct manner you'd realize the scene was all about wooing death by giving them a small chance.

...and?

You're going to need more than "my boy was just fooling" to form the entirety of an argument that he altered the base composition of his physical body to make himself less durable.

Originally posted by Philosophía
We both know that most of the cosmic events in comics are jobbers. For all intents and purposes, surviving a Black Hole should make you impervious to most attacks -- and that is obviously not how the characters who've survived those are portrayed.

i ragged on some of the famous black hole feats cause of the execution, but there was still the intent of the writer to show that surviving them was for the top class guys.

wonder woman couldn't do what superman has done if their roles were reversed.