Ganondorf & Link VS Ultimecia & Squall

Started by Nephthys20 pages

Firstly, would the power of the godess' actually come into play? Would the Triforce actively protect Ganon and Link from TC ot Time Stop at all? Tell me that and then I'll tell you why Ultimecia still > the Triforce.

Tell me that and then I'll tell you why Ultimecia still > the Triforce.

^A closed mind isn't going to gain much from this. 😬

I don't think you're getting it.

There's no point in discussing this. Neither side has definitive proof they win. 😐

Also, you're ignoring the bonds of friendship again, and if you really want to continue to debate this: You have atleast one TC immune high end reality warper to deal with, probably two. Consider the results.

I'll take that as a no then.

Ultimecia wins /thread

awepedo baitbaitbaitbait.

edit: having re-read what you just said, everything you just said was either false or unsupported. Doublebait.

It wouldsn't have to come into play because the triforce doesn't have an off-switch. 😛 It passively warps reality around it, even without being possessed.

*OMNOMNOMNOMBAIT*

edit: having re-read what you just said, everything you just said was either false or unsupported. Doublebait.

PARDONE MOI!?

Anyway: I'm done. Got my fill of bait. 😄

Minds are rarely changed on KMC, and I know mine will not be changed, and I doubt yours will.

The debate itself can have no true logical conclusion.

It wouldsn't have to come into play because the triforce doesn't have an off-switch. stick out tongue It passively warps reality around it, even without being possessed.

And protects them from reality/time-warping attacks?

PARDONE MOI!?

Closed minds can be opened, I probably can prove that one side> the other, you're the on ignoring things about the bonds of friendship, there isn't 'at least' one reality-warper to contend with, in fact its highly unlikely there isn't and I will not consider the results.

excellent *strokes white cat*

Edit: Fine, I'm pre-emptively sorry if I offended you or anything. I need to go to bed now anyway. GG

And you can Never have your fill of bait. 😖hifty:

Edit: Fine, sorry if I offended you or anything. I need to go to bed now anyway.
Nah, I just have a wicked migraine. No hard feelinz.

Some people here didn't understand FFVIII's concept of love and friendship in relation to TC Ultimecia, it seems.
Or they didn't play the game at all.

Love and friendship allows the party to survive ONE of Ultimecia's abilities(Time Compression), but not the rest.
Love and friendship alone aren't enough to beat her. doh

Jesus, you guys are killing me.

1) Ultimecia lost to mortals with friendship. That's pretty lame, even for PIS.

2) Trueforce. 😐 Nuff said. FF has no defense here.

3) Time creation > Time Compression
What's Ultimecia going to compress when Nayru erases time from existance?

4) I'd wager that Link is immune to Ultimecia's time manipulation thanks to not only the power of friendship, but the Master Sword as well.

The trueforce is not even a planetary level item. Its wishing power can't even leave the golden land, forcing Ganon to rely on Agahnim to break a seal made by a few old men to get into Hyrule, which he would then have to conquer via an army, and it did nothing to prevent a young boy in tights from slaughtering him.

Ultimecia absorbs the Golden Land, Hyrule, Kohlint, etc in under a micro second, proving herself exponentially more powerful than a whole truckload of triforces.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
The trueforce is not even a planetary level item. Its wishing power can't even leave the golden land, forcing Ganon to rely on Agahnim to break a seal made by a few old men to get into Hyrule, which he would then have to conquer via an army, and it did nothing to prevent a young boy in tights from slaughtering him.

Ultimecia absorbs the Golden Land, Hyrule, Kohlint, etc in under a micro second, proving herself exponentially more powerful than a whole truckload of triforces.

Your whole argument has been disproven already with cutscenes, quotes and lore. The "broken record" approach isn't working.

No, it's been proven by LttP, OoT, etc. Go play a Zelda game.

Did you play ALttP? It was quite clearly stated that Ganon wished to rule the world, but did not specify which one, so he got the Sacred Realm, which fit the definition of "world." Due to his unbalance, he couldn't make any more wishes, and had to take over the hard way.

No, it is not limited to the Sacred Realm. Play a Zelda game.

I think you're just jealous because the LolloveLinkclub is family and your feeling kinda lonely right now. 😛

Originally posted by LLLLLink

1) Ultimecia lost to mortals with friendship. That's pretty lame, even for PIS.

The mortals include a gunbladesman who powerful limit breaks, a blue magician, a guy strong enough to stop a train with a punch, a girl who can end fights pretty quickly, a sorceress, and a guy who can make his gun overpowered with certain types of ammo. They're not your typical mortals.


2) Trueforce. 😐 Nuff said. FF has no defense here.

The Triforce never saved Ganon nor was it able to put him away for good. You and the rest of the lolink fanboys overrate that thing to death.


3) Time creation > Time Compression
What's Ultimecia going to compress when Nayru erases time from existance?

Nayru isn't in this fight nor would she be of any help.


4) I'd wager that Link is immune to Ultimecia's time manipulation thanks to not only the power of friendship, but the Master Sword as well.

Won't happen. Even if Link managed to be immune to her time manipulation, he will get slaughtered as Ultimecia can use powerful magic (including Dispel which will throw Nayru's Love into the trash) and create monsters that put Ganon's to shame.

Neg... No TC = Link turns them both into fish, and BFR's them to a dimension entirely devoid of water, but makes them immortal. 😐

Now, feel like going and reading my peace making post before this reaches 100 pages?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Neg... No TC = Link turns them both into fish, and BFR's them to a dimension entirely devoid of water, but makes them immortal. 😐

Now, feel like going and reading my peace making post before this reaches 100 pages?

Link has none of those abilities. He's just an elf boy with a featless triangle and items that are weaker than FF8's magic.

Ultimecia has better magic in her 1st form than Ganondorf has shown in any Zelda game.

Both are false. May want to come back when your mind is a little more open. Also, read that peacemaking post I made. It makes quite a few good points.
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Originally posted by LLLLLink
Jesus, you guys are killing me.

1) Ultimecia lost to mortals with friendship. That's pretty lame, even for PIS.

2) Trueforce. 😐 Nuff said. FF has no defense here.

3) Time creation > Time Compression
What's Ultimecia going to compress when Nayru erases time from existance?

4) I'd wager that Link is immune to Ultimecia's time manipulation thanks to not only the power of friendship, but the Master Sword as well.

wallbash

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
The mortals include a gunbladesman who powerful limit breaks, a blue magician, a guy strong enough to stop a train with a punch, a girl who can end fights pretty quickly, a sorceress, and a guy who can make his gun overpowered with certain types of ammo. They're not your typical mortals.

OMGZORZ! A gunblade that doesn't even fire off any rounds... They all pale in comparison to Link and Ganon. 😬

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
The Triforce never saved Ganon nor was it able to put him away for good. You and the rest of the lolink fanboys overrate that thing to death.

No one ever wished for those things with the Triforce, plus Link had the Master Sword. But, it doesn't matter because you are just going to forget that little tidbit again....

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Nayru isn't in this fight nor would she be of any help.

Nayru's essence is in the fight, therefore her feats are relevant.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Won't happen. Even if Link managed to be immune to her time manipulation, he will get slaughtered as Ultimecia can use powerful magic (including Dispel which will throw Nayru's Love into the trash) and create monsters that put Ganon's to shame.

Link reflects her magic via The Mirror Shield or Master Sword, and counters with a Light Arrow of evil smiting JUSTICE.

Dispel has never worked on god-level characters; fallacy. Even youtube debaters are intelligent enough to know that wont work...

Ganon dips Squall and Ultimecia in twilight and has his way with them.

Youtube doesn't have debaters.