Akatosh vs Nozdormu

Originally posted by Burning thought
The first paragraph points out why your logic fails. If you cannot see it even if I point them out then theres no point in trying.

You don't know what a fallacy is, do you?

Something has just occurred to me.

Akatosh is immortal, truly immortal, all of the Aedra and Daedra are, they cannot die.

Akatosh still cannot kill Nozdormu, but Noz cannot kill him.

Sounds like a No-Limit fallacy to me.

Nozdormu for the record is also immortal.

I actually don't. So you can explain it to me if you wish, since I'm far too lazy to dictionary.com it.

Edit: That was @ the fallacy thing.

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
You don't know what a fallacy is, do you?

Its a failure of logic, I dont think you know what a fallacy is however, are you assuming its just a specific failure of logic such as the "no limit" or "appeal to audiance" fallacies? think again.

Your false idea as it were, a fallacy it is.

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Sounds like a No-Limit fallacy to me.

Nozdormu for the record is also immortal.

It is not a matter of power, the Aedra shaped the universe, so Nozdormu certainly lacks the power to kill what Akatosh, the most powerful Aedra, could not.

Now that I think about it, the Aedra's shaping of the cosmos implies a state of existence outside of time, being as they would have created the concept. Will look into this.

Just because they could not it of, does not mean Nozdormu can't.

........ what?

Just because they could not kill him, does not mean Nozdormu can't.

How would he do so?

He has existed before time did, and the Daedra and Aedra are far more conventionally powerful than Nozdormu.

Hey Neme, what book is it in Oblivion that suggests Sithis created the Daedra and the Aedra?

Does not exist.

Most sources state Anu and Padomay created the Aedra and Daedra.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Does not exist.

Most sources state Anu and Padomay created the Aedra and Daedra.

Padomay is however if I recall correctly just another name Sithis is known under.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Does not exist.

Most sources state Anu and Padomay created the Aedra and Daedra.

Yeah, it does. It's a book called "Sithis", and I am looking at it right now on my Oblivion file.

Also, I read that "time" is under Akatosh's domain in ES. In the game, grants you blessings like shortening the time of travel on your journey, but hasn't displayed feats like Nozzy. Of couse, he exists outside of time, so....yeah....

"His avatar is a dragon. He is generally considered to be the first of the Gods to form in the Beginning Place; after his establishment, other spirits found the process of being easier and the various pantheons of the world emerged. He is the ultimate God of the Cyrodiilic Empire, where he embodies the qualities of endurance, invincibility, and everlasting legitimacy." - I found that on the official ES website.

Which is relative.

What level of damage output was used and proven inadequate?

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Which is relative.

What level of damage output was used and proven inadequate?

In theory all Aedra and Daedra have made their very own pocket dimensions from their own power, that means that they atleast have reality warping powers extending to that of a small universe (if we take the most common form of pocket universe as valid), Akatosh was capable in a avatar (a Avatar is normally atleast in Elder Scrolls less powerful then the real deal) to banish Mehrunes Dagon, I'm not sure though if Dagon was also in his Avatar form. What does this leads to? Well I would put Akatosh based on what sources imply that he is around the same level as the Daedra which is around pocket universal.

I'm not a expert on Elder Scrolls lore and NemeBro has a greater interest and understanding of it then me, so I'm also waiting to hear what he says.

Which gives us conjuring and translocating powers. Neither give us the ability to estimate firepower.

The Avatar of Akatosh was merely a bit of the mystical blood of Akatosh in the Amulet of Kings that was given to St. Alessia by Akatosh. Martin broke it open upon himself, and since he was a Dragonborne, he bacame the Avatar.

Hence:

Akatosh blood
+
Dragonborne
=
Avatar of Akatosh.

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Which gives us conjuring and translocating powers. Neither give us the ability to estimate firepower.

Actually it gives us quite a good idea on firepower in terms of reality warping, if you from nothing can create a entire realm and maintain it through nothing but your own energy, you are going to have something to dish out.

Not necessarily. Take Warcraft for example. The Council of Tirisfal created their own little realm, but they have not shown us any real firepower. Maybe Merryl, but he isn't part of the new one. The capability to create something differ from the capability to destroy something. It is two different schools, two different usages of magic.