I am not going to argue with you that a being who helped create the universe and all of its laws is more conventionally powerful than Nozdormu. Every Aedra and Daedra is able to shape the Cosmos, and the creation of a pocket dimension is a feat, though only the Daedra are particularly known for doing that.
Also, 5L is right, Akatosh exists outside of time, being the principal deity governing time and the one who created it, he is outside of Nozdormu's jurisdiction.
Originally posted by Q'Anilia
It is not a solid base to claim firepower. Creating something doesn't go hand in hand with being destructive.Space is within Nozdormu's jurisdiction though. While he master time, it is not his only area of power. He is not powerless against beings from outside time (Infinite Dragonflight).
Creating normally requires more effort/energy then destroying though.
Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Not necessarily. Take Warcraft for example. The Council of Tirisfal created their own little realm, but they have not shown us any real firepower. Maybe Merryl, but he isn't part of the new one. The capability to create something differ from the capability to destroy something. It is two different schools, two different usages of magic.
The Council of Tirisfal that infuse a being with enough power to actually damage Sargeras avatar? Are those the mages we are talking about?
That was the old Council of Tirisfal, and those has shown firepower. Merryl blasted numerous opponents into pieces. Then again, Jaina is part of the new one, so my point just turned mute, with her one-shotting a Necropolis and stuff.
Originally posted by UtrigitaBut a different type of energy.
Creating normally requires more effort/energy then destroying though.
Originally posted by Q'Anilia
That was the old Council of Tirisfal, and those has shown firepower. Merryl blasted numerous opponents into pieces. Then again, Jaina is part of the new one, so my point just turned mute, with her one-shotting a Necropolis and stuff. But a different type of energy.
Isn't it lovely shooting down ones own arguments 馃槢
True but to suggest that a guy that can use his energy in order to create can't use those same energy to atleast accomplish destruction on a similar scale to what he was creating is a bit thin imo.
Originally posted by Q'AniliaTo create an entire universe, you must provide the necessary power to "mantain" said universe and create its laws, gravity is a universal force that they created for instance, and then there are more abstract concepts such as time which Akatosh is personally credited with. Several beings in fiction and nearly every "supreme being" are considered so powerful because of their creation feats, when they have not a destruction feat to their name. I'll use an example you are familiar with and that I am positive you have used, Arceus is considered to be the most powerful Pokemon ever, and all it has is a creation feat, the creation of the universe. You yourself have claimed Arceus is the most powerful and have used it in a few threads, therefore, clearly creation feats are viable to gauge a character's power.
It is not a solid base to claim firepower. Creating something doesn't go hand in hand with being destructive.Space is within Nozdormu's jurisdiction though. While he master time, it is not his only area of power. He is not powerless against beings from outside time (Infinite Dragonflight).
Akatosh exists outside of both normal time and space, having created it and all. Akatosh, and every Aedra and Daedra actually, do not exist on the same plane of existence.