Originally posted by Allankles
The Presence is God in DC, so that hasn't changed, he's the mind of the Primal Monitor/Overvoid/The Source. These concepts were unified and to be fair, other writers have suggested this before FC and Morrison.
So the Presence is an aspect of The Primal Monitor? Like the Word and Voice is to the Presence?
Originally posted by Omega Vision
And the Source is the body? That still doesn't make much sense considering the Source has shown to have a will and purpose of its own separate from the Presence.
The Source is also the same mind but the Monitor's call it the Overvoid which is also the Presence/God as of FC, I posted the article. Morrison chose to call it the Overvoid (or Mind of the Monitor) the reason being that he considers the metaphorical canvas stories are placed in, to be like an infinite void in which anything can happen.
Guys like Kirby pretty much intended for the Source to be a representation of DC's God in the 4th world, look at how he describes Highfather's first meeting with the Uni Friend? That had Pre Crisis God written all over it.
Even in Vertigo, where characters have in some stories made those type of distinctions, the Source itself has been described as omnipresent, omnipotent etc in Vertigo tales.
Starlin's source entity aside, I've never really understood why they would be seperate entities, since they seem to represent the exact same thing in the same DC reality.
Originally posted by Allankles
The Source is also the same mind but the Monitor's call it the Overvoid which is also the Presence/God as of FC, I posted the article. Morrison chose to call it the Overvoid (or Mind of the Monitor) the reason being that he considers the metaphorical canvas stories are placed in, to be like an infinite void in which anything can happen.Guys like Kirby pretty much intended for the Source to be a representation of DC's God in the 4th world, look at how he describes Highfather's first meeting with the Uni Friend? That had Pre Crisis God written all over it.
Even in Vertigo, where characters have in some stories made those type of distinctions, the Source itself has been described as omnipresent, omnipotent etc in Vertigo tales.
Starlin's source entity aside, I've never really understood why they would be seperate entities, since they seem to represent the exact same thing in the same DC reality.
Uni Friend?
Originally posted by Prep-Man
I agree. It doesn't make sense. The Presence met with Superman on more than one occasion. All of a sudden he doesn't "know" the Multiverse. LMAO>
That was Pre Crisis though wasn't it? 😉
I prefer Morrison's take, it unifies all these concepts that writers have put together post crisis without being consistent with previous ideas.
Originally posted by Allankles
The Source directly conferring with Highfather in the form of a humanoid hand. It was pretty much like the image of Moses in the Bible getting the 10 commandments directly from God.
AKA The Hand.
Just like The Voice or The Word, it is an aspect of The Presence/Yahweh.
We saw the same hand reaching out to The Great Evil Beast.
It was even shown in an animated series..
Justice League Unlimited episode, "The Once and Future Thing, Part 2: Time Warped", where Batman and GL John Stewart chase Chronos before he merges with The Hand.
Originally posted by Xplosive
As it appears Primal Monitor may be above The Presence. If that is the case, then The Presence stands no chance.
There is no universal rule that says that supreme from fiction A equals supreme from fiction B.