FF8 Party v.s. Ganondorf

That would be rather redundant, wouldn't it?

I'm surprised that he let that go, Neme.

Can't Ganon not be hurt by anything other than the Master Sword? I thought I heard that somewhere. And if that is true, there is no hope for the FF8 party.

Originally posted by TacDavey
Can't Ganon not be hurt by anything other than the Master Sword? I thought I heard that somewhere. And if that is true, there is no hope for the FF8 party.

It is true that Ganondorf cant be defeated without the Master Sword, but the VGV rules say that Ganondorf must be denied this trait to make the matches closer to something someone might consider fair.

Originally posted by TacDavey
Can't Ganon not be hurt by anything other than the Master Sword? I thought I heard that somewhere. And if that is true, there is no hope for the FF8 party.

Ganon has been hurt by the Megaton Hammer/Biggoron Sword. He's even killed by the Silver Arrows.

^ And stunned (Beast) by the Ball and chain, normal arrows, being thrown to the ground and hurt by Wolf Links bites. (Latter is questioned on)

But, he can't be defeated without the Master Sword. 🙂

Also note that the person swinging that hammer, etc. is a 1000+ tonner. 👆

Or Silver arrows, are all holy/light weapons effective against him?

Originally posted by LLLLLink
But, he can't be defeated without the Master Sword. 🙂

Also note that the person swinging that hammer, etc. is a 1000+ tonner. 👆

Link had no Master Sword when he killed Ganon for good. And the Megaton Hammer doesn't make earthquakes like Zell's fists.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Or Silver arrows, are all holy/light weapons effective against him?

Pretty much since the Master Sword is aka Blade of Evil's Bane. In other words, Holy and Vampire Killer would have much effect on him.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Link had no Master Sword when he killed Ganon for good. And the Megaton Hammer doesn't make earthquakes like Zell's fists.

Pretty much since the Master Sword is aka Blade of Evil's Bane. In other words, Holy and Vampire Killer would have much effect on him.

This part is a lie. And I don't know what Zell's fists are supposed to be.

This could be true, and it could not be. Personally I vote for the latter based on that the Light Arrows and Master Sword use divine power, essentially straight from the Goddesses themselves.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Link had no Master Sword when he killed Ganon for good. And the Megaton Hammer doesn't make earthquakes like Zell's fists.

Pretty much since the Master Sword is aka Blade of Evil's Bane. In other words, Holy and Vampire Killer would have much effect on him.

Retcon.

No, the Master Sword has properties where it is clearly stated that it is required to defeat Ganon. Remember the failure of the Sages sword.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Retcon.

No, the Master Sword has properties where it is clearly stated that it is required to defeat Ganon. Remember the failure of the Sages sword.

Retcon the first Zelda and LttP? I'm gonna stop believing Nintendo's timeline if they ever do such a thing because those two games are among the best and most famous (with OoT).

Link used the Magical Sword in LoZ 1 & 2. Ganon was killed with Silver Arrows which are the Light Arrows.

And yes Moocow, VampireKiller would hurt Ganon for it is divine too. So would Holy even though it's not divine but Ganon cannot stand holiness.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Retcon the first Zelda and LttP? I'm gonna stop believing Nintendo's timeline if they ever do such a thing because those two games are among the best and most famous (with OoT).

You had better stop believing, then. I stopped.

Light arrows in Four swords have the same one-hit KO properties ans the Silver ones had.

But they're not 'straight from the Goddesses themselves.'

Zelda prayed to the Goddesses for them in TP, they sent the Light Spirits (if I remember correctly). I suppose it's true, in TP at least they weren't directly from the Goddesses, but the Goddesses still made the Light Spirits. And I think a description of the arrows is Divine Power.

In TP Zelda only asks the Light spirits themselves, nor are the Spirits said to be directly made by the Goddesses. Only description is 'Sacred' light.

The Goddesses created the Light Spirits to seal away the Fused Shadows. >_>

And I'm pretty sure she prays to the Goddesses themselves.

Wiki- ''Interestingly, when Lanayru reveals to Link the origin of the Fused Shadows, it mentions that three spirits were called by the Gods to seal the pieces away. This is explained that Midna had a piece of Fused Shadow in the Twilight Realm, and since there were 3 left, the Goddesses only needed the help of three.'' They already existed before they were called.

''Spirits of the light! Wielders of the great power that shines far and wide upon the lands of our world... In my hour of need, grant me the light to banish evil!'' Zelda TP.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
But, he can't be defeated without the Master Sword. 🙂

Also note that the person swinging that hammer, etc. is a 1000+ tonner. 👆

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's true. Even after he smacks him around with the megaton, he has to go back and grab the Master Sword once the fire dims, and even then it didn't truly kill him...

In Wind Waker, Link has to go get the Master Sword to stop him too. He even tries when the blade isn't fully powered and it doesn't affect Ganon at all.

Also, light arrows seem to only stun him. They never really hurt him, not like the Master Sword does. It has always been the Master Sword that deals the finishing blow.

Holy may be able to stun him, but I'm pretty sure it can't be used to kill him.

Silver arrows in Loz and aLttp kill him, as does the Light arrow in Four swords.