Alex Mercer vs. Link

Started by ScreamPaste21 pages

Originally posted by BloodRain
530 tons. Still full against the idea of Ganon being GG strength.
You never showed your work. 😐
Originally posted by BloodRain
What does he lift unaided thats 200 tons?

Knocking the sword out doesnt mean he can now lift those pillars too.
1. Beast Ganon.
2. GG only come into play when lifting, not gripping etc -''Power to lift''-
3. If it was such a strong blow to knock it out of his hands it would of gone so much further then a few meters.

That's in TP.

1. Moot point
2. Negative, you have no evidence to support this except for gameplay.
3. You keep revisiting this point, and I keep telling you: The player needs to be able to retrieve the weapon to finish the game.

Ganon's strength is infact greater than Link with the G.G.'s

Math isnt on Ganons side. 3kg sword moving 10m in 3 secs (work out the energy needed if you want to see). And this is GG strength?

Apprently Ganon being in the beast form, larger and physically more hulkin with larger weapons is moot to his strength lol. I like how the MS hardly being sent any distance is now also PIS....funny how PIS covers every event scream doesnt like.

Ganons strength is nigh featless.

3. You keep revisiting this point, and I keep telling you: The player needs to be able to retrieve the weapon to finish the game.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You never showed your work. 😐

That's in TP.

1. Moot point
2. Negative, you have no evidence to support this except for gameplay.
3. You keep revisiting this point, and I keep telling you: The player needs to be able to retrieve the weapon to finish the game.

Ganon's strength is infact greater than Link with the G.G.'s

😬 Did so, its in the post of OoT pillar.

Was to Cyner~

1. Not proven otherwise.
2. Quotes and lack of any showing in cutscenes.
3. And there were several options of what could of happened in the scene, eg into a rock or even fetched by Zelda.

Would be nice if he ever showed it besides this debated scene.

Did so, its in the post of OoT pillar.
You posted an image and the numbers you got, not the equations or variables you came up with, I asked you for the method you used, and you never supplied it. 😐 Also, I posted the exact same screenie from that thread on factpile and Kenny C. used yet a third method which yielded 960 tons and he seemed to ignore the caps of the stone.
1. Not proven otherwise.
2. Quotes and lack of any showing in cutscenes.
3. And there were several options of what could of happened in the scene, eg into a rock or even fetched by Zelda.

1. Ganon retains all his powers in all his forms, this is proven in several games. Ganon in his human form collapsed a large section of the central tower in his castle with a punch.
2. The pillar is a cutscene, quotes say they give him power. He later uses this power to stun Ganon long enough to retrieve the sword.
3. Zelda is trapped on a floating island over a hole in the earth's crust full of magma. 😐 There's no rocks outside the ring of fire, and Ganon walks around destroying them for the duration of the fight.

So, Link shits on Mercer for great justice, yeah?

Originally posted by LLLLLink
So, Link shits on Mercer for great justice, yeah?
That.. Isn't justice AT ALL D:

I'm still looking at that baby getting dragged off in your sig...

😐 What are you implying?

... that I'm looking at your sig? I dunno...

Originally posted by ScreamPaste

Everything I used to work it out was in the post, how i did it was also there. Dont remember you asking. Kenny C.?.. which scshot did he use? On that outside advice thing, ive also aske two friends to work it out, (one is ace at math and phys, other at math and is a huge LoZ fan) they got 550 and 600~ iirc and agreed on 530-600. But thats others stuff. Meh.

Havnt seen that, and if it was true that he was exactly the same in both forms he would have absolutely no reason to change between them.
Power to lift is stated twice, isnt mentioned that it because of the GG that he stuns him.
There were some things. Or, if developers intended him to have that strength, there should of been something there for it to get pierced into. Without that we have 3m/s speeds.

Everything I used to work it out was in the post, how i did it was also there. Dont remember you asking. Kenny C.?.. which scshot did he use? On that outside advice thing, ive also aske two friends to work it out, (one is ace at math and phys, other at math and is a huge LoZ fan) they got 550 and 600~ iirc and agreed on 530-600. But thats others stuff. Meh.
Not callin' you a liar or anything. Just noting I've never seen the work. If we could sit down and compare numbers sometime, that'd be pretty kewl.

I've shown my work on site many times, had other people check the numbers, ect.

Havnt seen that, and if it was true that he was exactly the same in both forms he would have absolutely no reason to change between them.
Power to lift is stated twice, isnt mentioned that it because of the GG that he stuns him.
There were some things. Or, if developers intended him to have that strength, there should of been something there for it to get pierced into. Without that we have 3m/s speeds.

The devs clearly did, as he disarms Link right off the bat, and before that punches a massive holt into his castle tower in his human form. How far it flew had to be limited so Link could go get the damn thing.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Ganon only needed to knock it outside the barrier he put up. It was a pre-meditated act.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Not callin' you a liar or anything. Just noting I've never seen the work. If we could sit down and compare numbers sometime, that'd be pretty kewl.

I've shown my work on site many times, had other people check the numbers, ect.

The devs clearly did, as he disarms Link right off the bat, and before that punches a massive holt into his castle tower in his human form. How far it flew had to be limited so Link could go get the damn thing.

Yeah sure. Now i need to find where i put it all :/

Be more convincing if it went into something or simply flew through the air faster.

''Ganon only needed to knock it outside the barrier he put up. It was a pre-meditated act.''
Doubt Ganon planned to knock it just outside the barrier.

''Ganon only needed to knock it outside the barrier he put up. It was a pre-meditated act.''
Doubt Ganon planned to knock it just outside the barrier.
I actually don't think Ganon even meant to do it, he just tried to hit Link and Link tried to defend himself.

No, Ganondorf is god and all of you can lick his ballz. 😠

Jk. 😛 Not really...

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
But, Mercer IS Evil.

A bit late to say this but...

At the beginning of Prototype, an innocent woman ran into some soldiers. At first they looked like they were protecting her from the infected civilians but after they mowed them down, one soldier told the other "no survivors". The soldier pulled out a pistol, aimed it at the woman's face, and pulled the trigger. After that, Mercer kills them. Is that evil? No. Is that justice? Yes.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
A bit late to say this but...

At the beginning of Prototype, an innocent woman ran into some soldiers. At first they looked like they were protecting her from the infected civilians but after they mowed them down, one soldier told the other "no survivors". The soldier pulled out a pistol, aimed it at the woman's face, and pulled the trigger. After that, Mercer kills them. Is that evil? No. Is that justice? Yes.

facepalm

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
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Someone isn't happy with me reviving a thread it would seem.