Omega Red easily. Wolverine may have managed to combat Red for more than 10 hours straight, but if it weren't for Agent Zero coming in to aid him, Wolverine would have been done for. He wouldn't be killed, but he would have been KOed by Red. Besides, Omega Red's powers negate healing factors. It is not immediate, but it nevertheless becomes a very important factor.
Originally posted by pinksushi1
Omega Red easily. Wolverine may have managed to combat Red for more than 10 hours straight, but if it weren't for Agent Zero coming in to aid him, Wolverine would have been done for. He wouldn't be killed, but he would have been KOed by Red. Besides, Omega Red's powers negate healing factors. It is not immediate, but it nevertheless becomes a very important factor.
Creed is vastly superior to Wolverine though. You need to keep in mind that there are certain factors in play in Wolverine vs Sabretooth that won't ever factor into any other fights they participate in. For one, when Wolverine fights Sabretooth, is Logan operating at the very peak of his abilities. Logan holds nothing back against Sabretooh, this isn't the same Wolverine that we normally see fighting in comics, this is Wolverine completely unrestrained. He hates Sabretooth with every fiber of his being, and will do anything he can to kill him. Secondly, Creed doesn't really care about winning, its all a game to him. He loves to fight Wolverine but he doesn't want to kill him, he wants to break to him, Creed wants Wolverine to become like him. So while Wolverine hates Sabretooth, in a twisted way Sabretooth actually likes Wolverine.
Sabretooth doesn't have any of the CIS that is holding him back when he fights Wolverine, with Omega Red and Sabretooth vs. Omega Red would be a completely different fight than Wolverine vs. Omega Red. Creed is indifferent to Arkady, and there is a high possibility this fight ends the same way as in the comics, with Omega Red running away before Creed kills him.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Creed is vastly superior to Wolverine though. You need to keep in mind that there are certain factors in play in Wolverine vs Sabretooth that won't ever factor into any other fights they participate in. For one, when Wolverine fights Sabretooth, is Logan operating at the very peak of his abilities. Logan holds nothing back against Sabretooh, this isn't the same Wolverine that we normally see fighting in comics, this is Wolverine completely unrestrained. He hates Sabretooth with every fiber of his being, and will do anything he can to kill him. Secondly, Creed doesn't really care about winning, its all a game to him. He loves to fight Wolverine but he doesn't want to kill him, he wants to break to him, Creed wants Wolverine to become like him. So while Wolverine hates Sabretooth, in a twisted way Sabretooth actually likes Wolverine.Sabretooth doesn't have any of the CIS that is holding him back when he fights Wolverine, with Omega Red and Sabretooth vs. Omega Red would be a completely different fight than Wolverine vs. Omega Red. Creed is indifferent to Arkady, and there is a high possibility this fight ends the same way as in the comics, with Omega Red running away before Creed kills him.
I don't see how Creed can defeat Red. Creed's healing factor would eventually be negated to nothing and Red wears Carbonadium armor, which Creed's claws can't cut through. On the other hand, Red can strangle Creed with his tentacles and absorb his life force until he is KOed. Red restrained Colossus who was even stronger than Red himself. Colossus would easily defeat Creed. Oh, and when Red absorbs Creed's life force, Red's own HF get better and better.
i would say old school red would be able to beat classic sabe but we have a on panel beating on red.... red current depiction of his durability makes it even worse for red's durability and better for sabe's damage output..
sabe can win by tearing red's head off..ala shiva moment, or the spetsnaz super soldiers.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i would say old school red would be able to beat classic sabe but we have a on panel beating on red.... red current depiction of his durability makes it even worse for red's durability and better for sabe's damage output..sabe can win by tearing red's head off..ala shiva moment, or the spetsnaz super soldiers.
And how would Creed do that when Red has those tentacles? How would Creed do that when Red has a healing factor himself? How can Creed do that when Red restrained Colossus who is stronger than himself? Also, Domino defeated Red in AOA. Does that mean in a fair fight that Domino would always defeat him?
a healing factor wont help you when someone digs their claws in and rips the head off.. the healing factor can help heal the wounds but not prevent them all together.
it didnt help shiva and it self repair system, adamantium resistant metal alloy.. when sabe ripped its head off... not sure if the supersoldier spetsnaz had a healing factor but i am sure they did they also had Ada. resistant skin..
Sabretooth is pretty fast and brutal he doesnt F#@@ around like Wolverine.. sabe can easily bypass the coils pretty easily as a matter of fact he has and proceeded to bum rush and give Red the beating of his life.. also Wolverine fought for 10 hours escaping the coils repeatedly and bringing the fight right to him face to face..
Colossus cant break free from the coils since the pheromones and life siphon screw with his strength and stamina... Sabretooth can struggle pull on the coils with his still high lvl strength he doesnt stop fighting wont stop fighting for hours unlike colossus who turns into a noodle once he is grabbed by the coils...
also sabe's red beating canon> AOA not Canon
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
a healing factor wont help you when someone digs their claws in and rips the head off.. the healing factor can help heal the wounds but not prevent them all together.it didnt help shiva and it self repair system, adamantium resistant metal alloy.. when sabe ripped its head off... not sure if the supersoldier spetsnaz had a healing factor but i am sure they did they also had Ada. resistant skin..
Sabretooth is pretty fast and brutal he doesnt F#@@ around like Wolverine.. sabe can easily bypass the coils pretty easily as a matter of fact he has and proceeded to bum rush and give Red the beating of his life.. also Wolverine fought for 10 hours escaping the coils repeatedly and bringing the fight right to him face to face..
Colossus cant break free from the coils since the pheromones and life siphon screw with his strength and stamina... Sabretooth can struggle pull on the coils with his still high lvl strength he doesnt stop fighting wont stop fighting for hours unlike colossus who turns into a noodle once he is grabbed by the coils...
also sabe's red beating canon> AOA not Canon
Red can just restrain Sabretooth with his tentacles, like he did to Colossus. Also, if why couldn't Wolverine slice Red's head off, if Sabretooth supposedly can?
Originally posted by pinksushi1
Red can just restrain Sabretooth with his tentacles, like he did to Colossus. Also, if why couldn't Wolverine slice Red's head off, if Sabretooth supposedly can?
Colossus doesn't have a healing factor. The moment Arkady touches him with his tentacles that fight is over and Colossus is as weak as a baby. Sabretooth, however, does have a healing factor. This means he can still operate at peak efficiency for sometime before there is a notable decline in his attributes.
Creed is also in the same ballpark as Arkady strength wise, allowing him to potentially over power Omega Red in a tug of war.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Colossus doesn't have a healing factor. The moment Arkady touches him with his tentacles that fight is over and Colossus is as weak as a baby. Sabretooth, however, does have a healing factor. This means he can still operate at peak efficiency for sometime before there is a notable decline in his attributes.Creed is also in the same ballpark as Arkady strength wise, allowing him to potentially over power Omega Red in a tug of war.
I disagree greatly with this, though sabre-tooth is strong, Omega red is consistnly display with vast strength reaching class 90. he easily overpowered and restrained colossus and he done so with out it seems using his death factor. He also shown to be strong enough to restrain iron man and eaisly hold a helicopter form taking off. I say he has quite the strength advantage against sabre-tooth
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Thats not really accurate when it comes to life drain. Though Sabre-tooth would last longer, not much. As we seen when he uses it on Wolverine he drained extremely fast.I disagree greatly with this, though sabre-tooth is strong, Omega red is consistnly display with vast strength reaching class 90. he easily overpowered and restrained colossus and he done so with out it seems using his death factor. He also shown to be strong enough to restrain iron man and eaisly hold a helicopter form taking off. I say he has quite the strength advantage against sabre-tooth
And Sabretooth has over powered Rogue and Miss Marvel.
Not even Wayverine was all that effected by Omega Red's death spores or life drain, during combat and he is a much weaker incarnation than the standard well written Wolverine. Sabretooth is going to be fine, it will be hours before he starts to slow down.