Originally posted by Battlehammer
You do realize that Sabre-tooth is just as fast as spiderman right?
Firstly, Sabretooth is not as fast as Spider-man. Secondly, even if he was, its of no use if you can't move like Spider-man can.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Pheromones will do little to sabre-tooth due to his extreme healing factor. However the life drain would certainly take him down, however due to CIS Sabre-tooth could actually luck out and get a 1 to 3 wins, though even with out the life drain OR should be enough to thrash Sabre-tooth.
Pheromones by themselves may not appear to do anything, but make no mistake, just like any other form of injury, it is taxing the healing factor. Add any more serious and sustained damage, and Sabretooth will be in very bad shape. Even without Pheromones, Omega Red can take him down easily. Sabretooth ain't getting past the coils, and once he gets entangled, its over. PIS-less scenario, getting hit with a full speed/strength coil is not fun, should break bones and crack skulls easily.
Originally posted by brownqk
Uh, no one has still explained how Sabertooth is going to injure, maim, kill, or even KO Omega Red! If Wolverine couldn't do it in their 18 hour fight with better tools--adamantium claws--how the hell is Sabertooth going to do anything?!
because sabretooth is much stronger then wolverine? and he cut make much more serious injuries on omega red, of course all that relevant if we use the weapon x sabretooth with adamantium and all the upgrades
Originally posted by Placidity
Firstly, Sabretooth is not as fast as Spider-man. Secondly, even if he was, its of no use if you can't move like Spider-man can.
True he can't move like spiderman do to spidermans natural agility and flexibility, but just becuase Sabre-tooth runs straight at people does not mean he can't dodge and do crazy maneuvers which he done number of time, but he simply does not need to.
Originally posted by Placidity
Pheromones by themselves may not appear to do anything, but make no mistake, just like any other form of injury, it is taxing the healing factor.
Originally posted by Placidity
Add any more serious and sustained damage, and Sabretooth will be in very bad shape.
Originally posted by Placidity
Even without Pheromones, Omega Red can take him down easily. Sabretooth ain't getting past the coils, and once he gets entangled, its over.
He could hit Red a few times not that it do that much.
Originally posted by Placidity
PIS-less scenario, getting hit with a full speed/strength coil is not fun, should break bones and crack skulls easily.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
It would not be fun, but it won't be breaking sabre-tooth bone or skull. He vastly more durable then you would think.
Hmm, what durability feats does he have that you could prove wasn't due to his healing factor?
You think if Red used full coil strength/speed and knocks Sabretooth in the head he won't get knocked the shit out? I don't have any feats for Red's coil's strength, but I'm sure he could at least trash steel with it.
Originally posted by Placidity
Hmm, what durability feats does he have that you could prove wasn't due to his healing factor?You think if Red used full coil strength/speed and knocks Sabretooth in the head he won't get knocked the shit out? I don't have any feats for Red's coil's strength, but I'm sure he could at least trash steel with it.
Red is pushing 90 tons. though 90 tons could be enough to crack sabre-tooth head open, being able to break steel would not be closes to effecient to break sabre-tooth bones. Hell Sabre-tooth bone claws (which like wolverine his bones all of them are the same density as his claws) can go straight through most any material easily liek steel, stone ect.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Red is pushing 90 tons. though 90 tons could be enough to crack sabre-tooth head open, being able to break steel would not be closes to effecient to break sabre-tooth bones. Hell Sabre-tooth bone claws (which like wolverine his bones all of them are the same density as his claws) can go straight through most any material easily liek steel, stone ect.
So you are saying:
1. Sabretooth won't get broken bones from a Class 90 strike? For example if Colossus did a full strength punch to his ribs?
2. Sabtretooth is more durable than Spider-man? You know Spidey has heaps of durability feats that would top Sabretooth's?
Originally posted by Placidity
So you are saying:1. Sabretooth won't get broken bones from a Class 90 strike? For example if Colossus did a full strength punch to his ribs?
2. Sabtretooth is more durable than Spider-man? You know Spidey has heaps of durability feats that would top Sabretooth's?
I not sure I mean it depends were he got hit, his durability is rediculous.
I bet if you asked marvel who more durable spiderman or sabre-tooth they say sabre-tooth in a heart beat. Sabre-tooth unlike spiderman has shown to ahve upgrades to his durability, he been stated with superhuman durability and so forth number of times I believe. Heaps? Spiderman has more durability feats I don't doubt, but he also has many times he appearances. But heaps of durability feats that would top his? Then you Be quite mistaken, hell I don't even think spidermans best durability feats match sabre-tooth best, but your welcome to pm one or place it here if you like that you believe is superior to sabre-tooths feats which should be easy with all those heaps of feats well beyond his as you said.
Originally posted by BattlehammerI disagree. without hf, spiderman has the better durability than creed.
I bet if you asked marvel who more durable spiderman or sabre-tooth they say sabre-tooth in a heart beat.
he's taken hits that would KO creed if creed didn't have hf.
also, did you stay up all night?
Originally posted by Placidity
So you are saying:1. Sabretooth won't get broken bones from a Class 90 strike? For example if Colossus did a full strength punch to his ribs?
2. Sabtretooth is more durable than Spider-man? You know Spidey has heaps of durability feats that would top Sabretooth's?
it depends if its adamantium sabes then no way in hell he gets hurt if its without adamantium he will get his bones broken like caliban breaking his back or when he goined the x-men he stated some one punched him so hard it broke his jaw and shoulder
spider-man is not that durable and shouldnt be he got his arm broken from falling off a building he got again his arm broken by being hit by a car, he stopped a bullet with his hand and fainted, got his arm broke by jigsaw ... spider-man has a crappy durability for class 10 i tell you that
Originally posted by Starscream M
I disagree. without hf, spiderman has the better durability than creed.he's taken hits that would KO creed if creed didn't have hf.
also, did you stay up all night?
Thats what you think. Here an example of Wolverine durability with out his heal factor, now he several times less durable then sabre-tooth and he was able to wistand stun that were enough to kill and elephant.
yea doing mad school work.
Originally posted by Battlehammerspiderman's taken punches from venom and carnage that are extremely deadly without being KOed
You be wrong about that.Thats what you think. Here an example of Wolverine durability with out his heal factor, now he several times less durable then sabre-tooth and he was able to wistand stun that were enough to kill and elephant.
yea doing mad school work.
also, you can't just go around making claims that creed is many times more durable than logan. you have to prove it if you're gonna say that.
Originally posted by buenokid
it depends if its adamantium sabes then no way in hell he gets hurt if its without adamantium he will get his bones broken like caliban breaking his back or when he goined the x-men he stated some one punched him so hard it broke his jaw and shoulderspider-man is not that durable and shouldnt be he got his arm broken from falling off a building he got again his arm broken by being hit by a car, he stopped a bullet with his hand and fainted, got his arm broke by jigsaw ... spider-man has a crappy durability for class 10 i tell you that
Yea I agree, though he has some high end feats his average durability is display much weaker.
Originally posted by Starscream M
spiderman's taken punches from venom and carnage that are extremely deadly without being KOedalso, you can't just go around making claims that creed is many times more durable than logan. you have to prove it if you're gonna say that.
maybe you should read comics with him in it...........you do realize that sabre-tooth is 10 plus tonner likely higher more liek 20 tonner......and has recieved several upgrades to strength and durability........not sure what the huge shock is, it kinda a fact known by thoses who actaully read wolverien comics........
Originally posted by BattlehammerI have read sabretooth comics, and his durability never really seemed that much higher than logan's. they both do well more due to their HF than innate durability...whereas spiderman relies on his durability to get through.
It hard to tell with them, there wierd, though strong there like goo almost and venom has huge fists. However spiderman has been KO by them several times venom in particular.maybe you should read comics with him in it...........you do realize that sabre-tooth is 10 plus tonner likely higher more liek 20 tonner......and has recieved several upgrades to strength and durability........not sure what the huge shock is, it kinda a fact known by thoses who actaully read wolverien comics........
Originally posted by Battlehammer
caliban broke his back? da, thats a low showing. That guy who broke his jaw and shoulder he stated was the hardest he ever been hit, dude was like superman type guy absurdily powerful.Yea I agree, though he has some high end feats his average durability is display much weaker.
well also caliban broke the back of the old sabretooth since them he was upgraded twice if i amnot mistaken and about that guy that broke his jaw and shoulder we dont know how exactly strong he was so it cant be discussed further i guess
spider-man also if i remember corectly got broken ribs when lizard hit him with his tale slammed him inti a wall and was in hospital after the beating he got from morlun and by rhino his durability is low
Originally posted by Battlehammer
That guy who broke his jaw and shoulder he stated was the hardest he ever been hit, dude was like superman type guy absurdily powerful.
Erm, if it was Superman-type guy, Creed's body would either have a massive hole in it, or be splattered everywhere. And if he was punched in the head, he would not have a head remaining afterwards.
Originally posted by Starscream M
I have read sabretooth comics, and his durability never really seemed that much higher than logan's. they both do well more due to their HF than innate durability...whereas spiderman relies on his durability to get through.
Sabre-tooth uses his durable far more consistently then spiderman who relies on agility and spidersense.
Originally posted by Placidity
Erm, if it was Superman-type guy, Creed's body would either have a massive hole in it, or be splattered everywhere. And if he was punched in the head, he would not have a head remaining afterwards.
also come on now were are these heaps of durability feats that easily top sabre-tooth best?