Lightspeed in the DBZverse

I think anything moving at those speeds inside an atmosphere would destroy the environment irrevocably...

Immagine if you will, the massive air displacement that would happen... sonic booms of those magnitudes would break apart even meters long, meters wide, solid steel bricks...

Suspension of disbelief is what helps in this case.

Or there is some unknown aspect in their movement which prevents that sort of destruction.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
I think anything moving at those speeds inside an atmosphere would destroy the environment irrevocably...

Immagine if you will, the massive air displacement that would happen... sonic booms of those magnitudes would break apart even meters long, meters wide, solid steel bricks...

Very rarely do manga get environmental effects right.

Imagine the wind displaced by someone even going 100mph. The effects and noise would be significant. The whole 'appear behind you unnoticed' thing would never happen.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Not canon, filler.

Filler, yes. Not canon? I'm not so sure. There are several statements where Goku mentions his training in Otherworld.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix

Or there is some unknown aspect in their movement which prevents that sort of destruction.

When I see this, it makes me think of the Flash. How does he save someone at that kind of speed without destroying the person or anything in his path for that matter? Moving at those kinds of speeds would have a dramatic effect.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Filler, yes. Not canon? I'm not so sure. There are several statements where Goku mentions his training in Otherworld.

Fillers makes the story inconsistent and inconsistency is due to different writers. So, you can't use fillers

Originally posted by LLLLLink
When I see this, it makes me think of the Flash. How does he save someone at that kind of speed without destroying the person or anything in his path for that matter? Moving at those kinds of speeds would have a dramatic effect.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
Fillers makes the story inconsistent and inconsistency is due to different writers. So, you can't use fillers

I'm so going to use this quote on a different argument concerning comics.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Filler, yes. Not canon? I'm not so sure. There are several statements where Goku mentions his training in Otherworld.

5L, you decree any comic not written by the original writer of a character as being not canon. So... Don't do that.

In absence of an official canon policy or statement, then only the original work, in this case the manga, is canon.

Originally posted by NemeBro
He did train in Otherworld. It is where he achieved the SSJ3 form. He however never participated in any Otherworld tournament.

5L, you decree any comic not written by the original writer of a character as being not canon. So... Don't do that.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
Fillers makes the story inconsistent and inconsistency is due to different writers. So, you can't use fillers

Originally posted by NemeBro
No.

Absolutely not.

Raditz being FTL was a dub fabrication, it is not present in the original manga.

To date, the best speed feat in the DBZ manga is Gotenks circling the world a few times in 20+ minutes.

And dodging a set explosion at point blank range, and showing up miles away from it seconds after.

Originally posted by dadudemon
1. Prove that that made him faster.

Because he stated it? That and the fact that he was far more able to keep up with his opponents.

Originally posted by Mr. Rhythmic
Because he stated it? That and the fact that he was far more able to keep up with his opponents.

I still don't see any proof. 😐

Originally posted by dadudemon
I still don't see any proof. 😐

Of what? That Gotenks was just messing around during his flight?

Originally posted by LLLLLink
I still think that, which is why I sided with this:

They>>>Your stupid opinions.

Originally posted by NemeBro
DC and Marvel own the characters, they say who can or cannot make something canon.

They>>>Your stupid opinions.

Business dealings should have no true authority on canon. No company should be able to speak "ex cathedra" (so to speak) on canonical issues. Original author's work only. 😠

Originally posted by LLLLLink
I'm so going to use this quote on a different argument concerning comics.

You'll look like an idiot if you do.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
You'll look like an idiot if you do.

I guess you should let Kirikaze Fuuma know that you think he is an idiot, don't you? 😬

If Kirikaze thinks the past decades of comics are noncanon fillers then yes he is an idiot, if he doesn't think they are noncanon fillers then he isn't. You can not compare Manga/Anime and Comics when it comes to what's canon. Different writers are canon for comics so long as it's still under the same company and whatnot.