Superman's soul was so pure that it actually burned demons that got too close to it. I don't know if that counts.
Superman doesn't need to breathe in space, or else he has insane lung capacity, given that he once engaged in battle for days on end in space with no breathing apparatus... they vary it, tbh.
either way, he can spend days in space without needing to inhale.
Originally posted by LLLLLink
Kk.
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Satannus is a prince in Hell and even he got burned by the soul of Superman.
I see someone posted the anime scene of Gotenks flying around the earth. Please keep in mind that
A. The anime is non-canon
B. In that scene you can see the earth visibly rotating, meaning it would have taken hours. Of course this is impossible due to the fact that the fusion only lasts 30 minutes, which makes the entire scene worthless. This brings us back to A.
Originally posted by LLLLLinkWhen Batman was reduced to a gibbering wreck and driven insane from the memories of his hundreds of deaths and torture at the hands of Emperor Joker, Superman showed absolutely no hesitation in having Spectre literally place Batman's tormented memories inside of him, a process that could have mentally and emotionally crippled Clark.
Well, does Supes have any feats of purity like Goku?(Perhaps this needs to be in another thread...)
Granted Clark was fine because his willpower is so immensely godlike, but still.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
I see someone posted the anime scene of Gotenks flying around the earth. Please keep in mind thatA. The anime is non-canon
B. In that scene you can see the earth visibly rotating, meaning it would have taken hours. Of course this is impossible due to the fact that the fusion only lasts 30 minutes, which makes the entire scene worthless. This brings us back to A.
Good point. I didn't catch that.
Scene has to be thrown out.
But, on that same note, the manga shows the "flown" lines around earth to be all at once without the Earth blurring/moving, at all (to the Eye). That's much faster than the speed of light. Impossible to tell.
So, canon, Gotenks is many times faster than the speed of light. I concede the argument. Now don't rub it in too much. 😠
Originally posted by Endless Mike
I see someone posted the anime scene of Gotenks flying around the earth. Please keep in mind thatThe anime is non-canon
Not really. Anime can be considered canon since anime "fill out" the plot of the Dragon Ball comic with many extended sequences. Besides, like No End N site said, there were many things akira Toriyama forgot to explain in the manga, so he decided to put them in the anime. So, anime is the second highest level of canon in Dragon Ball series.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Good point. I didn't catch that.Scene has to be thrown out.
But, on that same note, the manga shows the "flown" lines around earth to be all at once without the Earth blurring/moving, at all (to the Eye). That's much faster than the speed of light. Impossible to tell.
So, canon, Gotenks is many times faster than the speed of light. I concede the argument. Now don't rub it in too much. 😠
Um, I don't follow your logic here. All it shows is trails over a time-lapse amount (he had 29 minutes as after the end Piccolo said he had one minute remaining in the fusion, and it took him nearly that long to reach Buu's house).
And the anime is not canon at all, Toriyama did not contribute to it directly at all, in fact in interviews it's said that he was often surprised at what the anime writers decided to do. In absence of an official canon policy, only the original work (aka the manga) is canon. The anime is merely an adaptation based on the original and not canon at all. Not to mention they're redoing the anime and removing most of the fillers.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Um, I don't follow your logic here. All it shows is trails over a time-lapse amount (he had 29 minutes as after the end Piccolo said he had one minute remaining in the fusion, and it took him nearly that long to reach Buu's house).
No time lapse, but energy lines are all over the Earth. Earth looks exactly the same, no rotation, but all those lines are all over the Earth.
Therefore, he traveled all that time in in a virtual instant, not for a long time. Remember, there's no other interpretation than that because the Earth has no blurring.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
And the anime is not canon at all, Toriyama did not contribute to it directly at all, in fact in interviews it's said that he was often surprised at what the anime writers decided to do. In absence of an official canon policy, only the original work (aka the manga) is canon. The anime is merely an adaptation based on the original and not canon at all. Not to mention they're redoing the anime and removing most of the fillers.
I agree. Manga shows bunches of lines, Earth was sitting still, I was wrong, so I admitted it. That's where I was coming from. If you saw earlier in the thread, I debunked the idea that the anime was faster than light. I was a "sublighter". But, then, you brought up a good point that I didn't even think about: the Earth rotates in the anime, but it doesn't in the manga.
Originally posted by dadudemon
No time lapse, but energy lines are all over the Earth. Earth looks exactly the same, no rotation, but all those lines are all over the Earth.Therefore, he traveled all that time in in a virtual instant, not for a long time. Remember, there's no other interpretation than that because the Earth has no blurring.
It's a manga panel. How is it supposed to show animation? You realize there is such a thing as time lapse in sequential art, right?
I agree. Manga shows bunches of lines, Earth was sitting still, I was wrong, so I admitted it. That's where I was coming from. If you saw earlier in the thread, I debunked the idea that the anime was faster than light. I was a "sublighter". But, then, you brought up a good point that I didn't even think about: the Earth rotates in the anime, but it doesn't in the manga.
That makes no sense at all.
I'm not sure if it matters at all, but in the Gotenks flight scene in the anime all you see are clouds moving around the earth, not actual continents or islands. I just though that I'd make that clear.
Um, no, we see the whole planet rotating. There are no clouds moving independently from the surface of the planet itself.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Um, no, we see the whole planet rotating. There are no clouds moving independently from the surface of the planet itself.
So, what you're saying is that there is not one piece of landmass on the entire planet. Intelligent. 🙄
If the planet made any sort of rotation, we would have been able to see land coming around as the planet rotated. However, all that was seen is clouds moving. No land came into view at any point. So either:
A) The clouds were moving, not the planet,
or,
B) There is no landmass on Earth.
Take your pick.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Probably because instead of being animated it is a single page. 😐
You pointed out what I've already stated and getting at.
In case you did not know what EndlessMike and I were discussing:
In the anime, the Earth is spinning.
In the Manga, it shows the lines, all at once, on an unspun Earth. A major speed difference and something stringent people will not be able to get around.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
It's a manga panel. How is it supposed to show animation? You realize there is such a thing as time lapse in sequential art, right?
It doesn't matter as there's nothing saying that what he did, just then, was all at once, was over a time period, etc. etc.
What we DO have is an Earth has his travel lines, all at once, with no sign of movement by the planet.
You can add to that in anyway you want, but it is still speculation: the only way to interpret it exactly, without being wrong, is infinite velocity or that he flew around the Earth so fast that the change in motion of the Earth is not observable.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
That makes no sense at all.
Odd since it was your idea to begin with.
The Earth moved in the anime, the Earth didn't move in the manga.
Originally posted by LLLLLink
So, what you're saying is that there is not one piece of landmass on the entire planet. Intelligent.
No, I'm saying that we can see the entire planet rotating at the same velocity.
If the planet made any sort of rotation, we would have been able to see land coming around as the planet rotated. However, all that was seen is clouds moving. No land came into view at any point. So either:A) The clouds were moving, not the planet,
or,
B) There is no landmass on Earth.
Take your pick.
Or
C. The clouds were fully covering the planet as it was rotating.
What you're proposing is some kind of unheard-of super wind that blows every cloud on earth at the exact same speed in the exact same direction at the same time, and blows them so fast they would be beyond the speed of any hurricane or tornado ever recorded. I certainly didn't see any evidence of that anywhere.
You can add to that in anyway you want, but it is still speculation: the only way to interpret it exactly, without being wrong, is infinite velocity or that he flew around the Earth so fast that the change in motion of the Earth is not observable.
That makes no sense at all. Using this logic every time someone uses a flurry of punches it means they actually grew a dozen arms.
