SS has absorbed and liberated the equivalent energy of a star going nova and his shields have tanked an identical explosion. He has crushed a brain with his force field and manipulated it with very fine control. His pyrokinesis can heat up and dry out the air to dehydrate namor and he has anti-matter blasts. He's got the combined durabilties of thing and RR, a healing factor and skrull shapeshifting. He's also a class 100 with rubber reach and invisibilty ,and has used RR's powers (the most useles of them all) to cut platoons of soldiers to pieces by turning himself into superstrong barbed wire. Oh, he can also control the minds of others.
He will stomp Namor in the back of the head.
Can one of you unquestionably accurate comic book officianados please explain to Namor that he should not be wailing on SS, but should indeed commense to being "stomped in the back of the head" immediately? lol
Thing Durability? Koing Thing's Strongest incarnation with one shot(I don't even have to prove he can overcome Reed Richard's Durability. I mean, seriously? lol):
Johnny Storm Flame? Well Toro Seems to believe Namor's skin in Fireproof.....and Jim Hammond(a stronger torch who goes way back with Namor) confirms it(also, it took 3 torches to take him down, by overheating his spinal fluid, not dehydrating or charring him to a crisp):
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/?action=view¤t=The_Torch_005_010.jpg
Invisibilty? well, if anyone was paying attention earlier, they wouldn't noticed that in one of the scans from his fight with SS, he was stated to have a radar sense that negates invisibility.
I would stick around to see and respond to the undoubtedly compelling arguments from the inevitable responses to my post(probably just declaring PIS), but......I climb mountains.....and I've got to climb a large one this afternoon....it'll take me all day....yeah, that's it.
that is all.
Originally posted by namorsubby
Can one of you unquestionably accurate comic book officianados please explain to Namor that he should not be wailing on SS, but should indeed commense to being "stomped in the back of the head" immediately? lolThing Durability? Koing Thing's Strongest incarnation with one shot(I don't even have to prove he can overcome Reed Richard's Durability. I mean, seriously? lol):
Johnny Storm Flame? Well Toro Seems to believe Namor's skin in Fireproof.....and Jim Hammond(a stronger torch who goes way back with Namor) confirms it(also, it took [b]3
torches to take him down, by overheating his spinal fluid, not dehydrating or charring him to a crisp):
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/?action=view¤t=The_Torch_005_010.jpgInvisibilty? well, if anyone was paying attention earlier, they wouldn't noticed that in one of the scans from his fight with SS, he was stated to have a radar sense that negates invisibility.
I would stick around to see and respond to the undoubtedly compelling arguments from the inevitable responses to my post(probably just declaring PIS), but......I climb mountains.....and I've got to climb a large one this afternoon....it'll take me all day....yeah, that's it.
that is all. [/B]
That fight is PIS/very low showing for a CIS crippled SS. His current encarnation since the annihilation would wreck Namor.
The environmental effect of heat can accelerate namor's dehydration, it'll just take longer to put him down. If we area assuming namor could swim inside the sun, then it's reaonable to assume it would take a group of human torches going all out to put him down, but their higher end showings demonstrate otherwise. Any one of them could do it alone.
IW's power is enough to put him down for good, regardless of namor sensing his position and that of the force constructs. I also doubt Namor would punch through them in any reasonabe ammount of time.
SS has soaked far more damage than punches from Namor and has displayed creative use of RR and Thing's power in very effective ways.
1.Declaration of PIS-endence.......figured. and since when does SS have a conscious?
2.You heard it straight from the mouth of the original, more powerful torch......Namor's skin is fireproof.it was actually stated in one of the older handbooks. The explanation was that namor's skin is nigh-invulnerable to temp extremes as an adaptation to temp extremes underwater(ie, underwater volcanoes, artic water).SS only has johnny's firepower. You think SS can match the flame of 3 torches?(one of whom's power is superior to his)
3. I agree......IW's power seemed to work out great for him in their fight.....
4. Clarify this for me:
SS has Thing durability(or even slightly below) right? Now, Namor Koed an amped incarnation of Thing with One-shot, as shown in the scan, Right? So, How can SS withstand more than Namor can dish out? Also, RR's Durability is not even worth mentioning IMO. Even if SS can somehow combine the two, why does it matter?
5.If anything, I'd say Namor is getting more powerful(surviving Void sentry unscathed, 3 torches to KO, Besting his younger self, who took wonderman/Ares Simultaneuosly, etc)
Originally posted by namorsubby
SS only has johnny's firepower.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF10e.jpg
He also has a hypnotic glare
Originally posted by namorsubby
1.Declaration of PIS-endence.......figured. and since when does SS have a conscious?2.You heard it straight from the mouth of the original, more powerful torch......Namor's skin is fireproof.it was actually stated in one of the older handbooks. The explanation was that namor's skin is nigh-invulnerable to temp extremes as an adaptation to temp extremes underwater(ie, underwater volcanoes, artic water).SS only has johnny's firepower. You think SS can match the flame of 3 torches?(one of whom's power is superior to his)
3. I agree......IW's power seemed to work out great for him in their fight.....
4. Clarify this for me:
SS has Thing durability(or even slightly below) right? Now, Namor Koed an amped incarnation of Thing with One-shot, as shown in the scan, Right? So, How can SS withstand more than Namor can dish out? Also, RR's Durability is not even worth mentioning IMO. Even if SS can somehow combine the two, why does it matter?
5.If anything, I'd say Namor is getting more powerful(surviving Void sentry unscathed, 3 torches to KO, Besting his younger self, who took wonderman/Ares Simultaneuosly, etc)
1 yeah it's pis and what is this about SS conscience?
2 take a look at their high end showings and you'll see the temperatures they can reach, did they even bother going nova on him? Even if his skin is absolutely heatproof and survives intact, wich is unlikely, any of them could cook him alive inside it. SS has assimilated and released a star worth of energy and fired mountain crushing anti-matter blasts
3 lots more of the good old pis and cis, sometimes the author also gives namor plot device electric powers (which he looses right after the fight) that somehow interfere with sue, although it has also been suggested by namor that it is her emotions that cripple her. With the SS's mentality, skrull physiology and no PIS, namor is done for. How long will it take him to punch through those shields? SS kills him with a thought.
4 The SS has soaked and pushed through more damage than punches like that on panel during annihilation conquest. And thing has better showings than that too. RR durability is significant, he can absorb lots of shock and impact, stretching instead of breaking.
5. sentry let him live and so did the torches
Namor wins this. People really do think his some pointy eared Aquaman on here. His basically a slightly stronger (At peak his stronger in my opinion. Nothing really noticeable though.), faster, more agile, more versatile version of Hercules who can fly and has better recuperative powers. Going strictly by high showings, Super Skrull could take the majority. His malleability and Susan Storm's powers would be the sole reason but it's not a sure thing or easy.
No matter how you look at it, Namor beating the Super Skrull in their only fight really hurts Kl'rt chances here.
Where is that Namor vs. Pineapple Thing incident from, Subby? That's a pretty damn uber showing for Namor. I haven't seen it in a while. I believe it is from an annual though.
