Super skrull vs. Namor

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Concerning Herc Vs Namor Underwater(strength-wise)

Originally posted by khazra
Even without being dehydrated by flames, how does namor deal with an invisible class 100?

If you dont have a way to see invisible enemies and he's fighting even remotely smart the superskrull is pretty deadly.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Okay, but he's not fighting Hercules. He is he going to hit an invisible opponent?
He uses the radar sense of the blind cave fish.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Concerning Herc Vs Namor Underwater(strength-wise)

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
He uses the radar sense of the blind cave fish.

Damn that trump card. Aquaman only wishes he could call upon the powers of the blind cave fish.

(Seriously, thats so stupid they even had to have a box within the panel explaining it)

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Nein. I gave you examples when you asked. The scan also shows him using powers with a greater degree of creativity than he showed previous to Annihilation, a standard that was kept and increased as the event progressed. The change in personality and proficiency has been maintained since (hence why we see Super Skrull using clever bubble-in-brain tactics post-Annihilation).

He also shows clever shield manipulation when trapping the escaping scientist/warden's ship. He combines Reed and Thing's powers in manners previously unseen, he uses Johnny's flames to go incandescent and blind (which he hadn't done before), and he uses his shields with a greater degree of intelligence- partial or total instant shield blocks for incoming fire, minor shields + flight to simulate Cannonball-style-attacks, etc. I'm just pulling from the top of my head, his recent history is chalk full of such examples.

His creative power meshing hadn't become an emphasized element of his character until around Annihilation, and continues to be emphasized since. He's become significantly more impressive, and would pose a greater threat to Namor (though really, he should have beat Namor before).

I'm assuming that, having already touched on this, and having seen you previously choose to ignore evidence blindly, this post will also be greeted with little in the way of refutation. Like I said, be that the case, I'll just interpret it as a concession that you have no logical argument that a meta-level brick can overcome Kl'rt.

Okay, I heard "he shoud've beat namor before"(declaration of PIS-endence) and more details on how he's learned to use his powers more effeciently, simply written by you, with no examples or scans to support it.

I believe someone made a nice thread for you to use........demostrate for me something that shows the contrast skill-wise between when he fought namor and now. If he has been doing more impressive things with his powers since their encounter, just give me a reason to belive so(besides your own words). That's all I ask.

Also, are you still saying that in that scan SS was indeed using the term "more creatively" literally? Literallly, and not as an implication meant to say "I will kill, they won't"? I suppose that's just fine either way......

Re: Re: Concerning Herc Vs Namor Underwater(strength-wise)

Originally posted by Blanket
Looks like Mortal Herc.
BTW, a choke hold is not proof of someone being stronger. 😬

In that issue(Namor the Submariner #58), Herc ran up and suckered Namor along with the avengers....I believe herc, vision, thor(with his hammer), and entrantress all took a shot at him before he knew what was going on........namor still had the strength to snatch Herc up with one hand and keep him contained(he did not wish to fight)

then there are the other two examples of Namor simply stating his superior strength underwater......all three of these examples are much, much more recent than that silver age scan, but if they are all somehow insufficient, how about this?:

Avengers V1 #40:

Herc shows Namor up on land, overpowering him and tossing him to the ground(Namor's obviously losing strength though from being on land, as he mentions so). So Namor decides to use the cosmic cube to evelope them both in water.......Namor quickly proceeds to manhandle herc, grabbing either an arm or his head(can't tell) and a leg and bending him. Herc apparently even starts to lose stamina fighting against namor's hold(check text). Anyway, Namor decides it's not fair to use the cube and returns them to dry land.When properly hydrated, Namor and Herc stalemate on land(wasp even says "neither can defeat the other)

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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
He uses the radar sense of the blind cave fish.

these fish powers of his are inconsistant though, he used to have a thousand of them, now they come and go and he forgets most all the time

SS

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Originally posted by 753
these fish powers of his are inconsistant though, he used to have a thousand of them, now they come and go and he forgets most all the time
Namor seldom even utilizes flight in battle. He's a brawler, but he's smart enough to know when he has to expand his formmidability with others parts of his arsenal in order to stand a chance.

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